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Eddie Jones: Stopping Sonny Bill

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Trevor Allan (34)
How does the 10 cover his man & SBW as well. particularly if the 10 is not giving early ball?
I would suggest the larger defender goes high regardless of how SBW is holding the ball. The Tahs being a good example BB goes high & TC goes low?

You're absolutely right, #10 can't leave his man until pass has been made but I've noticed that the Crusaders often give the ball early to SBW to give him room to work in - if there's no early pass from #10, you're back to a one on one tackle from #12 but you're no worse off than if you'd just employed a man on man or zone defence in the first place.

The idea of the bigger defender going high is a valid one. Another way of putting it might be that #12 (or the man outside) always goes high (to encourage the offload back on the inside away from the defender attacking the ball) - in reality #12 will usually be bigger than #10, so same idea.
 

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Phil Kearns (64)
The most obvious thing to do is to try to keep possession away from his team. Much easier said than done, of course, but I would say for the Wallies to have a realistic chance in the big games we will have to do more than our fair share of counter-rucking. We will have to be fitter, stronger, and more determined right across the park than we have ever been.
 
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Jamie Roberts, Jean de Villiers, Jaque Fourie, Robbie Fruean, Stirling Mortlock, Yannick Jauzion, Basteauraud (sp?)...there are plenty of big, skilful centres in rugby.

Cutter, I am aware they exist in the world! but how many of those players can you put into a wallabies jersey?
Needing 2 defenders to cover 1 attacker is going to lead to problems in other defensive channels. Its not exactly an ideal solution... it sounds like inefficient damage prevention. But at this point we dont have any big centres to cover him, so i guess its all we can do.
 

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David Codey (61)
There is way too much talk about SBW and how to defend against him. He is still a back afterall and relies on the forwards and playmakers to get him the ball. If the defense does a good job and slows down the ball and pressures the half and flyhalf then SBW wont get front foot ball and the defense will hit him before the gain line. If he tries to offload in those circumstances it will come unstuck as much as it works.
 

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Ron Walden (29)
i didnt think anybody still listened to eddie jones anymore?
i look at the era of rubbish he created at the wallabies and his record at the reds- that for me is eddie jones
 
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tranquility

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i didnt think anybody still listened to eddie jones anymore?
i look at the era of rubbish he created at the wallabies and his record at the reds- that for me is eddie jones

Eddie Jones is a brilliant rugby mind, no question. His issues lie in the fact that he is partly autistic and can't communicate effectively with those around him. This is why he has been particularly effective in the director / advisory roles, both at Suntory and Saracens. Not to mention the subtly he added to the South Africans in their successful world cup campaign in 2007.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Hmmm... can't help but think that the truth about EJ (Eddie Jones) is somewhere in between Jay-C & Tranquility!

He's a good coach with some great experience in different camps & has a few trophies to his name, that's for sure. But yes, if you look at the reds under EJ (Eddie Jones), it does lean to suggest that he's maybe had a good run of players when he's had his successes.

He's a stats man through and through & think he plays off the Moneyball theory - that a team should be the sum of its parts and if you get the parts right, the team will succeed more often than not.
 

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Mark Ella (57)
Hmmm... can't help but think that the truth about EJ (Eddie Jones) is somewhere in between Jay-C & Tranquility!

He's a good coach with some great experience in different camps & has a few trophies to his name, that's for sure. But yes, if you look at the reds under EJ (Eddie Jones), it does lean to suggest that he's maybe had a good run of players when he's had his successes.

He's a stats man through and through & think he plays off the Moneyball theory - that a team should be the sum of its parts and if you get the parts right, the team will succeed more often than not.

If he left the little mans syndrome behind he would be brilliant. His fueding with the ARU was still rumbling during his time at the Reds and it clearly got in the way of his responisibilities to the franchise. His bitchy little spats with Conolly were a good indicator. The Reds were dumb not to see this coming and Eddie was foolish to take the job.

I admire his passion for the game and his intelligence. It shines through but it is a shame his demina gets in the way.
 
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tranquility

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He is one of those brilliant enigma's that when he strike a bond with someone (Jake White, and down at the Brumbies) he is a very positive entity, and also very effective. However he seems to have limited social skills, and when he does not get on with a group or an individual he doesn't seem to have the social skills to cope - he then spits the dummy. As a rugby brain purely, he is first rate.

Also what is the go wit front rowers making good coaches?

Jones, Ewen, Nuci etc.
 
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