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Drew Mitchell out of the World Cup

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louie

Desmond Connor (43)
what where they thinking playing him? He was clearly never going to be match fit. same with a palu. should have only been used as a sub with 10-15 to go.
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
I think that is a little unfair on Mitchell and the Wallabies coaching staff and management.

Mitchell looked excellent prior to his injury and was definitely challenging to be part of the QF 22. I think he was just frightfully unlucky.

I'd put it more strongly, he was definitely one of our best two wingers - Ioane is the other. Properly selected, he would have run on in the QF with Beiber on the bench. On a cold wet day he tried to reach down and pick up the ball at full pace. It was everything operating at full pace and full stretch and a lesser player would have grubbered it and hoped to win the footrace. Same sort of bad luck that has put Carter and Steyn out, the tournament is poorer for it.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I'd put it more strongly, he was definitely one of our best two wingers - Ioane is the other. Properly selected, he would have run on in the QF with Beiber on the bench. On a cold wet day he tried to reach down and pick up the ball at full pace. It was everything operating at full pace and full stretch and a lesser player would have grubbered it and hoped to win the footrace. Same sort of bad luck that has put Carter and Steyn out, the tournament is poorer for it.

...something he has doen time and time again but prior to being unable to run for weeks, unable to do weights for weeks....I love the bloke (and I tipped him years ago to anyone who'd listen) and you have to admire his mental toughness to be playing so well so quickly after a horrendous injury, but it shows how lacking in confidence in our depth the selectors were that they felt the need to take these risks: it may be that they were right to lack confidence in the depth and it may be that they took a calculated gamble by virtue of the short time to get people to NZ to replace.
When you compare the loss of Tim Gavin in 91 and Kearns in 99 and Darwin in 2003 we dont look like the same calibre of team as those sides were - and our results bear that out.
Probably nothing earth shattering in this - if I'd posted it prior to losing to Ireland I guess I'd be a genius.
 

biggsy

Chilla Wilson (44)
his twitter says he is in LA and found a pub to watch the game..
IRB rules says if a player is injured and can not finish the comp must leave.... hope I don't see carter in the stadium for the rest of the comp
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Biggsy, he only has to leave squad, not the country. He could still go and watch games.
 

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
I don't think they have to leave the country, just the squad. I couldn't give a toss if Dan Carter wants to watch in the stadium - sit next to Graham Henry for all I care.

Do feel for Drew though.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Biggsy, he only has to leave squad, not the country. He could still go and watch games.

What's the difference? Doesn't seem to be any when you have someone like Jeremy Thrush training and doing contact work with the ABs. Completely unfair as NZ are the only team allowed this.
 

MrTimms

Ken Catchpole (46)
He could stay in the country, just not with the squad. He would have to find his own hotel, transport, tickets etc.

Obviously thought the US was a better idea.

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light

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Understandable too, the disappointment of having to go home early after all the months of recovery would make me want to get away from rugby for a while too. Obviously not keen on sitting on a beach in Fiji reflecting and would rather be amongst annoying Americans either watching a different sport or running around doing promo's.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
What's the difference? Doesn't seem to be any when you have someone like Jeremy Thrush training and doing contact work with the ABs. Completely unfair as NZ are the only team allowed this.

You do struggle a bit Gwerty, anyone can have a non member of team training with them. I am sure Wallabies, as would most teams, have used local players as opposition in some trainings. I remember watching Wales back in "87 training against local players.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
I can understand Drew going to States too, the poor bugger would of been gutted and probably wanted to get away from it completely. I feel for him, after evrything he's been through.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
You do struggle a bit Gwerty, anyone can have a non member of team training with them. I am sure Wallabies, as would most teams, have used local players as opposition in some trainings. I remember watching Wales back in "87 training against local players.

You sure about that? Warldrom had to train by himself until announced in the squad.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Positive mate, you can't bring players into country and allow them to train with squad until they are officially joined, but you can train with anyone from country of cup. All Blacks would train with Jeremy Thrush while in his region, but certainly wouldn't be able to have him travel around country with them. I believe they had Messam and Leonard while at Hamilton. It is usual practice.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Positive mate, you can't bring players into country and allow them to train with squad until they are officially joined, but you can train with anyone from country of cup. All Blacks would train with Jeremy Thrush while in his region, but certainly wouldn't be able to have him travel around country with them. I believe they had Messam and Leonard while at Hamilton. It is usual practice.

I am sure it was within the regulations, however what I'm trying to say is that it's unfair to the other country's. NZ gets players have already been involved in the AB squad in the past to do opposed training with, yes the other countries might be able to get players as well but I'm sure they'd rather their own like what NZ gets.
 

matty_k

Peter Johnson (47)
The bonus of hosting I guess. I'm sure all the previous hosts have had the same set up.
 
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