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Drew Mitchell - not suspended

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBnpliFRanI&feature=player_embedded#at=22

I can't see how Joubert missed Number 6 Black doing that.

Mitchell's first yellow card was far from a yellow.

From a fans point of view its disappointing to see a team the two TJ's miss that 2nd one by Richard Keino. Disgraceful in my view those TJ's saw it.

Elsom keep up the intensity, it works.

Deans needs to abuse the refs after the games for fuck sake
 

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Jimmy Flynn (14)
It's against the law, but it's not in the "foul play" part, right?

I hate these arguments.

Yes it is, Law 10 is "Foul Play"
10.1 (n) is "Misconduct while the ball is out of play."
10.4 (e) is "Dangerous Tackles"
10.3 (b) is "Repeated infringements by the team"

So it's all under Law 10 "Foul Play" and applies.

I think it's important, because I think the ref did a decent job on the night and it's not fair on him to claim that the laws weren't followed.
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Joubert did a pretty good job - the only thing he did wrong in that sequence was where he missed Kaino pushing the ball down - the warning should have been given then.

He had to to on the touchie's assistance about the first YC right?

As usual, Kafer's analysis on pretty much so everything (including the last 15 secs of chief's video) was spot on.
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
and Turner. He has been killing it at 13 for the woodies.

Hmmmm - he played on the wing yesterday and Matt McDougall from Gordon managed to skin him quite nicely to setup a length of the field try. Unfortunately one of the few highlights for the Highlanders :(
 
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Joubert did a pretty good job - the only thing he did wrong in that sequence was where he missed Kaino pushing the ball down - the warning should have been given then.

He had to to on the touchie's assistance about the first YC right?

As usual, Kafer's analysis on pretty much so everything (including the last 15 secs of chief's video) was spot on.


Actually no. A Yellow card should have been produced for Foul play and a proffesional foul. Two times a Wallaby wanted a quick tap and they were denied. That is as a blatant YC offence as I've seen.

Joubert did a great job the other night, but he had two incompetent idiots on the sideline.
 

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Peter Sullivan (51)
Elsom was quite aggravated when speaking to Joubert after the Muliaina/Kaino delays, but not Johnathon Thurston aggravated...
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
Actually no. A Yellow card should have been produced for Foul play and a proffesional foul. Two times a Wallaby wanted a quick tap and they were denied. That is as a blatant YC offence as I've seen.

Joubert did a great job the other night, but he had two incompetent idiots on the sideline.

Rubbish. No warnings had been given and throwing the ball away is not a yellow card offence within itself. Professional fouls are also only to be awarded when stopping what the ref see's as a penalisable offence stopping a certain try.

Joubert did well and the scoreline was a fair reflection. Poking around looking for technicalities against the AB's is not what is going to turn this Wallaby side around. Watching the game I saw at least 3 times Aussie forwards come in from the side to rucks. If more had been asked of Joubert to penalise the AB's, then equally could have been asked more of Joubert to penalise the wallabies as well.

Instead, he let the game flow & it was much better for it.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Blaming the ref for the loss here? Boring stuff.


Chief you want the cards so badly, I hate them.
 

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Trevor Allan (34)
missing the point, PB. very few (if any) have claimed that the cards made sweet fuck all of a difference in the result. everyone knows the AB's were better. blaming the refs for dodgy calls is different.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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Right - finally seen that first yellow for Shmoo.
1) Kaplan, you are the cheating C'UNT that Tahs stats prove you to be
2) McCaw - give yourself an uppercut Ronaldo

But, what I can't help feeling I've just missed a story on somewhere is

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SUSPENSION FOR WHITELOCK AND/OR MCCAW FOR THAT 'DANGEROUS TACKLE'????

If were going to live with this new dictat of players getting carded and cited every game, I want to know why the fuck either of those two aren't out for 2 weeks MINIMUM

The incident was penalised and the ref even said it would have been a yellow, if, guess who, MR JONATHAN KAPLAN hadn't conveniently been a bit unsure about the tacklers number, even though it was in 2ft letters 5m in front of him.

Well, the replay is pretty fucking clear, so citing officer, where are your fucking nuts now?
 

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George Gregan (70)
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I thought the Franks yellow was just rubbish (it didn't even deserve to be a penalty), Mitchell's first was a penalty at best.

Mitchell's second was a clear yellow and there should be more of that type of sanction, it was cynical and negative.
 
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Joubert did a pretty good job - the only thing he did wrong in that sequence was where he missed Kaino pushing the ball down - the warning should have been given then.

He had to to on the touchie's assistance about the first YC right?

As usual, Kafer's analysis on pretty much so everything (including the last 15 secs of chief's video) was spot on.
If it was given then, Genia would have had a yellow too when he ran away with the ball - 1min 24sec on Chief's video.

I agree that in days gone by with a slower game and lesser fitness, ball slapping at the quick tap/throw-in somehow didn't seem as serious. Now, the rulers-of-the-game have recognised that this behaviour ruins the flow of the game that they so desire. They desire it because our game is competing against other improving codes all over the world. There will be an adjustment period while the players and fans get used to it but it's ugly (uglier even than YC's) and the only way to get rid of it is 10 in the bin.
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
If the net result of this is that the players will stop trying to slow the play down, avoiding a quick tap by the oppo, then it was all worthwhile.

Maybe they'll stop doing it now, or at least less often.
 

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David Codey (61)
Yeah I was surprised at the team that Elsom just ran back and said nothing. He doesnlt like talking much, that much is obvious from interviews and the little that he talks on the field.

Having said that. Mitchell doesn't strike me as the listening kind. He'd probably have done it anyway.

What are the chances of the winger hearing it even if he did talk on the way back anyway?
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Joubert did a pretty good job - the only thing he did wrong in that sequence was where he missed Kaino pushing the ball down - the warning should have been given then.

He had to to on the touchie's assistance about the first YC right?

As usual, Kafer's analysis on pretty much so everything (including the last 15 secs of chief's video) was spot on.

Yep. So the ABs had already disrupted the quick tap. Then they got marched ten and Kaino disrupted the quick tap again. Joubert saw it and decided to do nothing. There was grounds for a yellow card straight away on Kaino in that instance. And you can't say that Joubert hadn't warned them yet, because 1. he can use a yellow card without warning and 2. the warning was specifically about disrupting quick taps, and Mitchell didn't do that.
 

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David Codey (61)
I thought the Franks yellow was just rubbish (it didn't even deserve to be a penalty), Mitchell's first was a penalty at best.

Mitchell's second was a clear yellow and there should be more of that type of sanction, it was cynical and negative.

Franks yellow was rubbish. Mitchell first yellow was rubbish. Penalty on Whitelock was rubbish.

Mitchell knocking the ball down was the second incidence of the Wallabies slowing the play down. Kaino knocking the ball down was the second incidence of the ABs slowing the ball down (although this occurred within 10 seconds of the first, so you could argue it was worse). If Mitchell deserved a yellow, then didn't Kaino also deserve one?

All we want is consistence from the referees, and we haven't had that from Joubert and Kaplan for a while.
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
What are the chances of the winger hearing it even if he did talk on the way back anyway?

Pretty much none since he was already in the bin.

Mind you he did have a better chance of hearing McAWE say something as he actually opened his mouth.
 
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