Drew Mitchell - not suspended
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John Hipwell (52)
That was extremely soft. Mitchell actually pulled out of the tackle and padded chests with McAWE.
Richie milked it and the touchie fell for it.
If anything this sort of decision should be referred to the video ref for a recommendation.
Joubert was yellow crazy and would of sent Whitlock to the bin as well for a perfectly legit tackle if anyone had got his number.
It's madness and will only serve to drive more supporters away.
Richie milked it and the touchie fell for it.
If anything this sort of decision should be referred to the video ref for a recommendation.
Joubert was yellow crazy and would of sent Whitlock to the bin as well for a perfectly legit tackle if anyone had got his number.
It's madness and will only serve to drive more supporters away.
wobbly
Fred Wood (13)
By no means was this the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last time that an international rugby game was turned into a farce by a South African referee. I've fired up about it on previous ocassions but wtf can you do. The ARU, the Wallaby coach and the Wallaby captain on the firld won't do anything about it.
Joubert is the latest in the dishonourable line stretching back over the last decade or so... Kaplan, Watson, Henning. On many ocassions the Wallabies and Australian Super teams have suffered the rough end of the whistle against these arrogant douche bags. Usually they're officiating Bledisloes and I'll accept that on many occasions the AB's would probably have beaten us anyway, like on Saturday night. And sure there's a couple of memorable occasions (albeit some time back now) that you could objectively say the ABs have come off worse with these refs too. But I'm just sick to death that we have to put up with their pedantic, inconsistent and I suspect inherrently biased* referring performances.
I suspect South African refs are inherrently harsher on the Wallabies because of a cultural cringe. South Africans still don't accept Australia as a rugby force and inherrently have more respect for the AB's.
If only we had someone with the balls to ask for a European ref for Bledisloe matches. I'd even accept a kiwi ref (or Walsh) before another jaapie.
Joubert is the latest in the dishonourable line stretching back over the last decade or so... Kaplan, Watson, Henning. On many ocassions the Wallabies and Australian Super teams have suffered the rough end of the whistle against these arrogant douche bags. Usually they're officiating Bledisloes and I'll accept that on many occasions the AB's would probably have beaten us anyway, like on Saturday night. And sure there's a couple of memorable occasions (albeit some time back now) that you could objectively say the ABs have come off worse with these refs too. But I'm just sick to death that we have to put up with their pedantic, inconsistent and I suspect inherrently biased* referring performances.
I suspect South African refs are inherrently harsher on the Wallabies because of a cultural cringe. South Africans still don't accept Australia as a rugby force and inherrently have more respect for the AB's.
If only we had someone with the balls to ask for a European ref for Bledisloe matches. I'd even accept a kiwi ref (or Walsh) before another jaapie.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
This is quite ironic really. Last week in the 'is mccaw a cheat' thread or whatever it is called I said he wasn't, and just like another openside was trying to get away with as much as possible for his team. Then I stated that the only players I consider cheats are ones that fake injuries or take dives to ensure that other players are either penalised or suspended. He comes out and does that straight away.
McCaw is officially a cheat now in my book.
We can not let this occur in our game. Diving has ruined Sookball for many supporters, and IMO we should be doing the opposite of what they do about it and crack down on divers. The likes of McCaw should be cited and suspended for diving.
I have no doubt that if he didn't take a dive it wouldn't have been a penalty and yellow card. It was a joke decision as it was, but he made sure someone saw that little bit of contact. It deserves a weeks suspension.
McCaw is officially a cheat now in my book.
We can not let this occur in our game. Diving has ruined Sookball for many supporters, and IMO we should be doing the opposite of what they do about it and crack down on divers. The likes of McCaw should be cited and suspended for diving.
I have no doubt that if he didn't take a dive it wouldn't have been a penalty and yellow card. It was a joke decision as it was, but he made sure someone saw that little bit of contact. It deserves a weeks suspension.
I will wait with anticipation for Paddy to come out and shit-can Kaplan and Joubert for that effort as he did for Dickinson.
I suspect I will wait in vain.
If Kaplan does not get some dressing down for that call from the side, the system is just so much shit.
I suspect I will wait in vain.
If Kaplan does not get some dressing down for that call from the side, the system is just so much shit.
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
Dunno about that, Cyclo. What did Joubert do, other than physically show the card?
Scotty
David Codey (61)
Wasn't it Kaplan that also called the Whitelock one? (where he wasn't sure of the number). Wasn't even a penalty offense and he wanted to sent someone off for it! What a joke.
JJJ
Vay Wilson (31)
Completely agree the ARU needs to kick up a stink when this sort of thing happens. If we don't nobody else will. The saffas won't because he's (Kaplan) their ref and so they'll always back him. The kiwis won't because it benefited them. I like the idea of not whingeing but if everyone else does it to good effect then we're only disadvantaging ourselves by not following suit where appropriate, like a batsman who walks.
DPK
Peter Sullivan (51)
I thought Joubert had a good game, to be honest. It would be pretty childish of the rugby community to constantly criticise referee's for not coming down hard enough on repeat infringements and then complain when they do.
You could say that the penalised infringements, like Mitchell's two penalties that led to his red card, were fickle and minor, but thats just a reflection of the players incredible lack of self control. Mitchell slapping the ball out of Smiths hands was such a fucking juvenile act, so stupid.
If the players dont want to be penalised for "minor" rule infringements, they should control their bloody actions. Like the grown men they (allegedly) are.
Oh and Kaplan's a douche. But we already knew that, didnt we
You could say that the penalised infringements, like Mitchell's two penalties that led to his red card, were fickle and minor, but thats just a reflection of the players incredible lack of self control. Mitchell slapping the ball out of Smiths hands was such a fucking juvenile act, so stupid.
If the players dont want to be penalised for "minor" rule infringements, they should control their bloody actions. Like the grown men they (allegedly) are.
Oh and Kaplan's a douche. But we already knew that, didnt we
Crow
Jimmy Flynn (14)
I thought Joubert had a good game, to be honest. It would be pretty childish of the rugby community to constantly criticise referee's for not coming down hard enough on repeat infringements and then complain when they do.
You could say that the penalised infringements, like Mitchell's two penalties that led to his red card, were fickle and minor, but thats just a reflection of the players incredible lack of self control. Mitchell slapping the ball out of Smiths hands was such a fucking juvenile act, so stupid.
If the players dont want to be penalised for "minor" rule infringements, they should control their bloody actions. Like the grown men they (allegedly) are.
Oh and Kaplan's a douche. But we already knew that, didnt we
I was really happy with the WB discipline in the first couple of games, especially against Fiji, where it would have been all too easy to have let go against one too many cheap shots. But these last two games have had lots of schoolyard like niggles which only come back to bite you with a decent ref.
I don't know how you could possibly hold Joubert to blame. The first yellow was reasonable from the ref's POV. Teh second was Michell's own fault. Joubert made it very clear to both teams about slowing the ball down. Kaplan possibly could be blamed for the first, but it might be the wrong move to call out Kaplan now, given he's running the show this week.
I don't believe anyone is making a scapegoat from Michell for the whole loss, but he's still got to shoulder the blame for his own mistakes.
Scotty
David Codey (61)
A question for those with more knowledge than me:
Does two yellows automatically mean a red card, or can a player get two separate yellows without getting a red? I think it is the later, which means that Joubert may have also been incorrect/hasty in pulling out a red for a minor offense.
Does two yellows automatically mean a red card, or can a player get two separate yellows without getting a red? I think it is the later, which means that Joubert may have also been incorrect/hasty in pulling out a red for a minor offense.
Brumbies Guy
John Solomon (38)
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