DPK's Positional Proposition

[DPK]

(Moving discussion from a thread were my posted had digressed off topic)

1. Alexander
2. Moore
3. Kepu

4. Vickerman
5. Sharpe

6. Horwill
7. Pocock
8. Higginbotham

(At scrum time, Sharpe would pack at 6.)

With the three Ents of Vickerman, Sharpe and Horwill all on the field at the same time, there can theoretically be one of each of them at every ruck the Wallabies contest.

Higginbotham can play a lot looser, acting as a ruck-bodyguard for the backline.

Pocock would have more opportunities as the greater ruck presence of the Wallabies pack would spread the opposition forwards thinner.


I was impressed with the way the front rowers played last night. They defended well and ran the ball very well in a few incidences in particular. However, the main problem was that they lacked support; either there wasn't any, or it was ineffective.

Problems/ other benefits? This is pretty theoretical stuff.

 

[Bowside]

It depends on how the ref interprets the breakdown. It will either work or go horribly wrong like it did for the reds.

 

[TOCC]

like i said elsewhere, the issue for Australia at the moment is the small statured backline.. We need mobile backrowers to help cover the backline in securing rucks etc.
Having Sharpe play off the side of a scrum severly limits our mobility and options, if he is on the side of the scrum and the ball goes his side, he is unlikely to be able to offer anything in support, likewise if the defence were to attack that side, he would be caught out.

 

[tigerland12]

Elsom won't get dropped.

 

[Doc]

It depends on how the ref interprets the breakdown. It will either work or go horribly wrong like it did for the reds.

It was two games last year, Kev got man of the match in the first and injured in the second. Hardly say it went horribly wrong.

 

[Joe Mac]

I would also like to see the bankline shift to
9 Genia
10 QC (Quade Cooper)
11 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
12 JOC (James O'Connor)
13 A Fainga'a
14 Ioane
15 Beale

JOC (James O'Connor) is not a winger. He players his best footy in the mid field. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is an alright centre but he is a better finisher and player under the highball and I think that makes him a perfect winger. Plus he doesn't like to pass much...

 

[Garryowen]

I don't like Horwill in the backrow. He is a great lock, probably the best we have, and is not suited to a role where ball running, speed and mobility are key attributes. That's not to say Elsom is excelling in any of those three areas at the moment either, but I am in the minority of people who think he will come good at the right time.

 

[gecko]

I don't like the look of that at all. The Reds found out that didn't work very well. I predict such a pack would get killed at the breakdown by NZ or England, snuffing out any chance of victory.

 

[Gnostic]

like i said elsewhere, the issue for Australia at the moment is the small statured backline.. We need mobile backrowers to help cover the backline in securing rucks etc.
Having Sharpe play off the side of a scrum severly limits our mobility and options, if he is on the side of the scrum and the ball goes his side, he is unlikely to be able to offer anything in support, likewise if the defence were to attack that side, he would be caught out.

It would be good if those mobile backrowers actually comitted to the rucks in that case instead of loitering in other spots as the tactics of their Divine Leader required. It would also require that workrate to be translated into some real effectiveness. Its no good if your number 8 struggles to clear out the opposition winger and our half back has to fight to get to the ball.

 

[TOCC]

It would be good if those mobile backrowers actually comitted to the rucks in that case instead of loitering in other spots as the tactics of their Divine Leader required. It would also require that workrate to be translated into some real effectiveness. Its no good if your number 8 struggles to clear out the opposition winger and our half back has to fight to get to the ball.

Groucho, i understand you arent a fan of Deans, but i dont feel its necessary to take a condescending approach to those people who actually like Deans.

 

[Ruggo]

It was two games last year, Kev got man of the match in the first and injured in the second. Hardly say it went horribly wrong.

I wouldn't say horribly wrong but I think he is talking about the Force and Tahs games this year. I put that down to Quirk playing the unfamiliar 7 role at the time.

To achieve the objective DPK is talking of, I think Samo is a ready made replacement more suited to that structure. No shifting at scrum time and more pace than Sharpe.

 

[TOCC]

DPK, stightly off topic but i feel there has been a copyright breach with your new Avatar

 

[Gnostic]

Groucho, i understand you arent a fan of Deans, but i dont feel its necessary to take a condescending approach to those people who actually like Deans.

Why are you refering to me as Groucho?

 

[TOCC]

woops, my bad, im dyslexic, both your names start with G

 

[Bowside]

It was two games last year, Kev got man of the match in the first and injured in the second. Hardly say it went horribly wrong.

The reds put in two of their 'worse' performances in those 2 games, and link came out after and said it was a failed tactic playing him at 6 due to the way in which the breakdown was being policed...

 

[Waylon]

(Moving discussion from a thread were my posted had digressed off topic)

1. Alexander
2. Moore
3. Kepu

4. Vickerman
5. Sharpe

6. Horwill
7. Pocock
8. Higginbotham

(At scrum time, Sharpe would pack at 6.)

With the three Ents of Vickerman, Sharpe and Horwill all on the field at the same time, there can theoretically be one of each of them at every ruck the Wallabies contest.

Higginbotham can play a lot looser, acting as a ruck-bodyguard for the backline.

Pocock would have more opportunities as the greater ruck presence of the Wallabies pack would spread the opposition forwards thinner.


I was impressed with the way the front rowers played last night. They defended well and ran the ball very well in a few incidences in particular. However, the main problem was that they lacked support; either there wasn't any, or it was ineffective.

Problems/ other benefits? This is pretty theoretical stuff.

Love it

 

[DPK]

DPK, stightly off topic but i feel there has been a copyright breach with your new Avatar

Come and get me!