Digby banned for five weeks

[kiap]

I think there have been a couple of posts where people have compared the incidents in trying to justify why they felt Diggers suspension was overly tough.

Did you quote and reply to those "couple of posts"?

No, the only comparison can be in the off-field judiciary process. The incident with Ranger does not fall under Law 10.4 (j) on lifting a player.

 

[PaarlBok]

The AFL has a fixed penalty system and that causes just as much debate about consistancy as this system.
The argument there always seems to be "How can this be classified as reckless when the one the other week was intentional. They were exactly the same."
Personally I believe that each incident needs to handled purely on its merits and in this situation Digby deserved a sanction.
I think 5 weeks is a little harsh but his history does need to be considered.

Next thing we can apply SBW boxing rules into rugby. Stupid to use another sporting code to rugby.

 

[Linebacker_41]

Next thing we can apply SBW boxing rules into rugby. Stupid to use another sporting code to rugby.

Why not use other codes to work off?

Whether it be the management of the code or coaching techniques there are transferable skills knowledge and process for all of the sports to make rugby a better game or more importantly a better managed game.

This view that we cant learn off other codes is very narrow. Businesses learn off each other all the time.

 

[PaarlBok]

Why not use other codes to work off?

Whether it be the management of the code or coaching techniques there are transferable skills knowledge and process for all of the sports to make rugby a better game or more importantly a better managed game.

This view that we cant learn off other codes is very narrow. Businesses learn off each other all the time.

Kak man, rugby is a unique sport on its own. Last thing we want is to learn from mungo balls drug addicts. We had enough of them, they can learn from our scrums and lineouts and sportmanship.

 

[Bullrush]

Kak man, rugby is a unique sport on its own. Last thing we want is to learn from mungo balls drug addicts. We had enough of them, they can learn from our scrums and lineouts and sportmanship.

I hate this shit. If you don't like another sport then that's up to you but why you'd feel the need to try and degrade the whole sport I'll never understand. It's just school boy antics.

 

[PaarlBok]

I hate this shit. If you don't like another sport then that's up to you but why you'd feel the need to try and degrade the whole sport I'll never understand. It's just school boy antics.

Boet that is not the point. I love all sports but to bring in examples and rules from other codes and compare them to rugby is just plain stupid. I know nothing about mungo ball, but you can try me in cricket and field hockey. Cant believe that people keep on qouting about a spear tackle in Mungo and the player gets X weeks compare to Y weeks in rugby. Fact is that Digby pleaded guilty himself, maybe he was stupid and they should blame him for his own stupidness if they think it was the wrong call.

 

[Godfrey]

Yeah, typical bullshit. Any group will have dickheads and gentleman. Often you are what you call the other.

Anyway, this discussion is about the admin/management side of things - the players aren't really all that involved so it matters little what they're getting up to in their spare time. I personally think if similar tackles are punished the same way going forward I don't think 4 weeks is all that bad. Beyond the horizontal and drove him - if the other guy happened to have his head in the wrong place or bad body position it could have been nasty. Judiciary has to punish the act and not the results.

 

[Bullrush]

Boet that is not the point. I love all sports but to bring in examples and rules from other codes and compare them to rugby is just plain stupid. I know nothing about mungo ball, but you can try me in cricket and field hockey. Cant believe that people keep on qouting about a spear tackle in Mungo and the player gets X weeks compare to Y weeks in rugby. Fact is that Digby pleaded guilty himself, maybe he was stupid and they should blame him for his own stupidness if they think it was the wrong call.

I actually agree with you PB.

The fact that even this week, league people were questioning the consistency of their own judiciary shows that there will never be absolute, universal agreement on judiciary rulings and you have to live with the good and the bad. The best way to minimise it is to not go there.

Sorry if I was a bit over the top but as a guy who enjoys both codes, I get a bit fed up with the bullshit from both sides.......

 

[suckerforred]

I don't watch or like League, but in this discussion I would have to say that their judiciary seems to be better developed then what rugby union has. No, comparisions can not be made with the rules, punishments or what constitutes a breach. However..... their administration setup seems, on the face of it, a little better. Yes you are always going to have the consistancy problems and the bitching and winging when a players gets suspended, however, at least they have a clearly defined starting point.

God I need to get out of this thread.....

 

[Spewn]

Great acting by the sharks dude holding his head after the tackle when it never hit the ground. He should have got the five weeks.

 

[twenty seven]

Spewn - a gong for best actor would have taken pride on his mantle. I was going to say chuck him a soccer ball but that might not be appropriate at the moment!!!

 

[en_force_er]

Digby is chronically injured. A talented yet breakable player like him could use the rest. Obviously it's not ideal but that's the glass half full view.

Now if only Rob Horne could get force rested soon so he's still good in test season.

 

[qwerty51]

huh

 

[en_force_er]

huh

Maybe I took too much of a tangent, still relevant to the threat topic though.

Digby is injured too much, specially for a player of his talent. Him having to take the rest couple of weeks off and the rest/rehab that comes with that can only be good for his long term playing career.

That being said, anyone affiliated with the Reds would rather have him playing.

 

[matty_k]

He's been retweeting people criticising the decision this evening. I wonder how SANZAR views this? Is out the same as saying out yourself?

 

[Sandpit Fan]

I actually agree with you PB.

The fact that even this week, league people were questioning the consistency of their own judiciary shows that there will never be absolute, universal agreement on judiciary rulings and you have to live with the good and the bad. The best way to minimise it is to not go there.

Sorry if I was a bit over the top but as a guy who enjoys both codes, I get a bit fed up with the bullshit from both sides.......

Just ask Des Hasler if he thinks the NRL judiciary is balanced...

 

[BPC]

No, I agree with Cyclopath on a more formalised group for overseeing the incidents. The panel members put their views and produce their decision; whether by compromise or majority, drawing the decision makers from the same small collaborating group will lead to more consistent outcomes.

I see your point but, to keep playing devil's advocate, how large is the current pool of citing commissioners and judiciary officers. I think it is a small group at the moment yet there are still concerns about consistency.

 

[Sully]

Just ask Des Hasler if he thinks the NRL judiciary is balanced...

I don't listen to anything Hasler says!

 

[Proud Pig]

Next thing we can apply SBW boxing rules into rugby. Stupid to use another sporting code to rugby.

You have not understood what I was trying to say. I did not say the AFL system should be employed by SANZAR.
People on this thread have been saying that we should have fixed penalties and I used the AFL system to show that inconsistency is just as prevalent in that system which applies fixed penalties.
I think the system we have which tries to treat each incident on its merits is the best one.
Sure there are inconsistencies but while it is run by us poor fallible humans unfortunately they will always happen.

 

[Linebacker_41]

Boet that is not the point. I love all sports but to bring in examples and rules from other codes and compare them to rugby is just plain stupid. I know nothing about mungo ball, but you can try me in cricket and field hockey. Cant believe that people keep on qouting about a spear tackle in Mungo and the player gets X weeks compare to Y weeks in rugby. Fact is that Digby pleaded guilty himself, maybe he was stupid and they should blame him for his own stupidness if they think it was the wrong call.

I think we are all on the same wavelength but express ourselves differently. I would hate to bring the rules of another game (particularly league) into our great game. But the administration, training techniques, marketing, discplinary processes, officiating are all up for grabs.

This includes spreading our knowledge further afield than league, AFL and soccer. Ice Hockey, American Football and even non-contact sports such as cricket have some great innovations and business principles that if successful we can steal shamelessly from. Likewise they have made some great mistakes that we should also learn from.