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Digby banned for five weeks

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Scotty

David Codey (61)
Dont you think he is a thug? Red Neck?

No, I just think he is a little stupid. Again you entirely missed the point of my post. You took exception to the fact that people had talked about South African thuggery and personal insults. Yet you completely ignore the fact that you started the conversation along that line by bringing up the 'thug' in the first place.

You can't have it both ways.
 

twenty seven

Tom Lawton (22)
Digby tackles low and has a powerful leg drive. Thats were he gets into trouble. Here he didn't keep the lift going. If he had it would have been a spear tackle. The tackle went horizontal and the guy hit the pitch shoulder and side. No spearing involved. He didn't land on top of him persay but went with the guy seemingly to tack the heat out of the tackle and land him as well as he could in that situation. He is not a grub so this stinks.
It's shit. Bad, bad outcome for Digby.
The Reds will go either two ways with this and the injuries.
They will play like men possessed or fall apart.
Go the Reds.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Digby tackles low and has a powerful leg drive. Thats were he gets into trouble. Here he didn't keep the lift going. If he had it would have been a spear tackle. The tackle went horizontal and the guy hit the pitch shoulder and side. No spearing involved. He didn't land on top of him persay but went with the guy seemingly to tack the heat out of the tackle and land him as well as he could in that situation. He is not a grub so this stinks.
It's shit. Bad, bad outcome for Digby.
The Reds will go either two ways with this and the injuries.
They will play like men possessed or fall apart.
Go the Reds.
He pleaded guilty and did the tackle himself.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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A note from the mods.

Don't get personal and don't enflame the situation.


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twenty seven

Tom Lawton (22)
Didn't say he didn't. Said he has a powerful leg drive and tends to go low, thats were he gets into trouble.....especially when he then drives up.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
Dan54, those 2 reasons are poor at best and the main complaint is the consistency where similar instances are not reported at all.
Hey 4, but everyone going crook at Judiciary, surey it's not there fault that similar offences were not reported. So are we all angry at Refs or Judiciary?
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
So an incident 4 years ago means double or quadruple the suspension? Come on, Strauss dropped the guy on his head, in Ioane's tackle the guy landed on his shoulder, barely past the horizontal. There's a big difference in how dangerous each tackle ended up. And the less dangerous gets a bigger suspension because apparently a prior means you are a "thug".

And Byrnes getting a shortened suspension for no apparent history is farcical. The guy is a known dirty player.

Again I point to the NRL points system. Light years ahead of the usual shambles from SANZAR.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
Hey 4, but everyone going crook at Judiciary, surey it's not there fault that similar offences were not reported. So are we all angry at Refs or Judiciary?

The whole system is broken. Just because a ref doesn't produce the white card on foul play, doesn't mean it shouldn't be looked at.

I don't see how people can defend anything to do with the SANZAR system. It's been criticised on here for years for being a joke.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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van Heerden stayed down... convinced Poki was gone if AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) didn't get up.

How can vH throw his hands up to his "injured" head when his scone was nowhere near the landing zone? Superb bit of play-acting here. Did vH play soccer as a kid?
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Digby's tweets are going awfully close to stepping over the line..

Someone needs to give him a call and tell him not to comment on the matter.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
That report is rubbish.

It reads like a guy from SANZAR sticking his finger in the air and picking some weeks, then feeling like he should add some or subtract some based on the past and how he feels today. Bad luck if he is having trouble passing a large dump today.

To make matters worse, he considers how badly the player was injured. That means nothing towards how the tackle should be judged. It should be judged on its own merit: people can be badly injured from an inocuous tackle, or not injured for a horrific tackle.

Apparently the fact that the player barely went past the horizontal seems to not matter - it's somehow "mid-range" and should be at least 6 weeks. Then what the hell does Strauss' tackle equal? Must have been "low-range" for a worse tackle. Huh?

And what does it matter if Ioane is a "talented international player"? Should not affect the suspension.

A three week bonus, or 37.5% for an early guilty plea and contrition is a bit large as well.

And why the fuck add a week for "deterrence"? Players shouldn't need added deterrence. That's why they are suspended to begin with. They are fairly penalised for dangerous play - the whole fucking suspension process to begin with is the deterence.

The whole process is a clusterfuck.

Digby Ioane
Saru

The SANZAR Duty Judicial Officer Mike Heron has accepted a guilty plea from Digby Ioane of the Reds for contravening Law 10.4 (j), Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground is dangerous play, after he was Cited following a Super Rugby Match at the Weekend after he lifted Marcell Coetzee in a tackle and drove him backwards so Coetzee hit the ground in a dangerous position.
Ioane has been suspended from all forms of the game for five weeks up to and including Saturday 21st April 2012.

The incident occurred in the 40thminute of the match between the Sharks and Reds played in Durban at Mr Price Kings Park on Saturday 17thMarch.
SANZAR Duty Judicial Officer Mike Heron assessed the case.
In his finding, Mr Heron ruled the following:
Digby Ioane was cited for a dangerous tackle made in the Reds v Sharks match on 17 March 2012. He was given a yellow card on the field, and the incident was referred to the citing commissioner (white card). The matter came to me as Duty JO.​

After reviewing the relevant material (including footage and reports on the SANZAR intranet), I followed the Duty JO process via telephone calls with the player, his coach and the Reds team manager. At the end of that process, I gave an indication of penalty of five weeks' suspension. After having time to consider that, the player accepted that suspension. Accordingly, Digby Ioane is suspended from all forms of the game for the five weeks to and including Saturday 21 April 2012 (that includes four scheduled Super Rugby matches and the bye week).

My reasons are as follows:
The tackle involved the player lifting the opposition player, tipping him beyond the horizontal and driving him backwards into the ground, in one motion. The Sharks player broke his fall with his right arm and landed on his back. The tackle was dangerous, although it appears from the footage that Ioane attempts to control the opposition player by keeping hold of him until he was brought to ground. That was not achieved safely in the circumstances and I find that the tackle was in breach of Law 10.4(j). The player accepted that the tackle was executed poorly and was in breach. His coach also accepted that and explained that the tackle occurred in a dynamic manner, in a critical defensive play for the Reds.
I reviewed the match footage, the citing commissioners report and the reports from the referee and assistant referee. I find that the tackle was executed deliberately in the sense that he intended to lift the player and drive him backwards. The player was tipped beyond the horizontal and driven backwards to the ground (and objectively assessed was clearly dangerous). I accept, however, that there was no intention to injure the player or to drive him forcefully into the ground. Rather, Ioane has executed the tackle with poor technique and was reckless as to the danger caused. In all the circumstances, I find that the tackle was mid-range and warrants an entry point of six weeks.
I note that the Sharks player received attention on the field and continued to play. The medical information I received indicated that the Sharks player received bruising to his neck, although I do not have further information as to the precise cause or seriousness of this.
Digby Ioane has two previous disciplinary matters relating to dangerous tackles, albeit from the 2008 season. The player accepted that he had been suspended for similar tackles in the past, but explained that he had altered his technique in subsequent seasons without further incident. The previous incidents are aggravating, although one has to take care not to punish the player twice. In light of their rather historic nature, in my view they warrant an addition of a further week to the penalty.
There is also the need for deterrence which again is present in respect to these tackles (refer IRB memorandum of June 2009). A further week suspension is warranted for reasons of deterrence.
Matters in mitigation include the players immediate acceptance of his wrong, his remorse for the same (expressed to me) and his plea of guilty. He received a yellow card, which in turn adversely impacted on the Reds during the game. The player does have a recent misconduct matter although it is not related and warrants no further mention. He is a talented international player who appears to have played several seasons without significant incident.
To recognise and acknowledge the immediate guilty plea and remorse, and other mitigating factors, I am prepared to reduce the sanction by three weeks, resulting in an ultimate sanction of five weeks. I have considered the relevance of the bye week in the course of my deliberation. I do not adjust my penalty to take account of that, given that the suspension is from all forms of the game and is intended to be meaningful but expressed in weeks. I appreciate that this suspension covers four scheduled matches rather than five, but note that this is coincidental, and does not in my view materially alter the substance of the suspension.
Accordingly, Digby Ioane is suspended from all forms of the game for the five weeks to and including Saturday 21 April 2012.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
The whole system is broken. Just because a ref doesn't produce the white card on foul play, doesn't mean it shouldn't be looked at.

I don't see how people can defend anything to do with the SANZAR system. It's been criticised on here for years for being a joke.

Ash, you will know I agree 100% with you, but I would draw your attention to the origin of these instantly-arriving 'defenders of the SANZAR system'. I have the gravest of suspicions that if all this inexplicable and grossly inconsistent 8(5) week banning was around an ineffective, non-game-busting Aus player unlike Diggers, there might just be a teensy weensy bit more sympathy for our cause. I do not recall SA local supporters posting here that the Cheetahs' player's 2 week ban (video above) was a grossly and unjustifiably light ban and he should have copped, say, 4 weeks, do you? There has to be absolute consistency of position in all this, or the cries of 'excellent SANZAR ruling, very just' look a tad tainted.
 
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What2040

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Are you saying that Scotty or Digby is a Red Neck???

Funny as
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
In searching to find where Mike Heron came from i found this:
Off Field Yellow Cards
There was only one Off Field Yellow Card issued:
Cameron Shepherd (Western Force)
Western Force player Cameron Shepherd was issued on "Off Field Yellow Card" for contravening Law 10.4 (e) Dangerous Tackling. A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously, following an incident in the 33rd minute of the Western Force v Hurricanes match when he came in contact late and dangerously with Hurricanes player Tim Bateman. The incident was not acted upon by Referee Jaco Peyper, however on further review of the footage after the match by the Citing Commissioner he deemed a yellow card was an appropriate sanction.
I gather an off field yellow card is given when the review of the incident takes the view that the player should have been carded during the game - I assume its still the case that cards carry over so if you accumulate 2 or is it 3 you get suspended.
If so it makes the lack of any action over the AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) tackle even harder to fathom and the inconsistency greater than at first appeared.
God forbid following the mungoes but perhaps they need the same panel reviewing all games for incidents in order to get some consistency.
 
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