In previous years, but this year his kicking game has been strong. That was needed
Crusaders v Waratahs, Round 13, 20 May 2016
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In previous years, but this year his kicking game has been strong. That was needed
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Dick Tooth (41)
I don't disagree, but i think Kepu or even Douglas would've narrowed the gap between the teams more than Beale might have in this context.
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Mark Ella (57)
I fully agree but it is not most Aussie teams, it is all of them. When you add the poor core skills execution it means they struggle.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
I have been saying it since 2014 (and before) the lack of a effective and reliable kicking game from the back three in Australian Rugby is a huge Achilles heel to our teams and the Wallabies. I struggle to put together a back three from all the teams that have two form wingers and a 15 that can kick effectively and consistently.
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Moono75
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not trolling. I just look at the resources, players etc NSW rugby has and think you should be putting it together at a higher level a lot more consistently than you do.
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Crusaderps leading the comp with 15 offloads averaged per game, Chiffs a distant 2nd with 12? What is this freakish fun loving Polynesian Bball attitude breaking out down in white vanilla Cantabland? When up north the fuckhead Blues lead the comp in ball possession, go side to side with it for 4 hours then finish the match having scored a grand total of 2 points in another spacco losing effort?
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
^^^^^^^^^ plenty of 'nesians in the backs these days what with Mo'unga, Havili, Fonotia, Macilai & Nadolo (OK those last two are technically Melanesian but y'all know what I mean) plus Ala'alatoa & Taufua up front. Shit, CruSadists training is practically a BroTown ep these days 
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Farking hell - you really want to talk about waste of resource - A championship and finals appearance in the last 2 years vs never having been out of the bottom half, ever?
Leaving that auto-uppercut to one side and be serious for a sec, this year the Tahs are now 5 top players down from a champ team. The good news is that of those 5 gaps I reckon at least 3 will become Wallabies.
Froggy
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I really don't know what happened to the tahs d in the first 10 minutes, but there were holes you could drive a truck through. It just seemed no-one knew where they were meant to be or what they were meant to do.
To put a positive spin on a bad night, for the next 68 minutes it was 2 tries each!
I know Phipps divides opinions a bit, but he has been the tahs best for 2 weeks in a row, and if Aus rugby had a few more with his energy and commitment we wouldn't be in bad shape.
To put a positive spin on a bad night, for the next 68 minutes it was 2 tries each!
I know Phipps divides opinions a bit, but he has been the tahs best for 2 weeks in a row, and if Aus rugby had a few more with his energy and commitment we wouldn't be in bad shape.
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Moono75
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Mate you can't seriously think that equal resources have been applied to the Tahs as have been applied to the Force (form your inference that we are bottom dwellers). It would be great to have a squad with injuries to 5 top players who are Wallabies as opposed to having your top 5 players out that are barley super rugby caliber. Pull up a chair and drink form our trough. For a team on the gravy train they should be delivering a lot more than they are. Maybe its just a general malaise across the whole of Australian rugby because nothing standing out as world class at the moment.
Look at the Rebels performance - that's what the Force should have been able to do this year IMO with a similar level of resources ( by which I guess you mean player stock) at their disposal. But they haven't.
In the Firepower years when the Force did have that level of talent they still didn't get above the bottom half, so I don't think it's clear that's the answer in itself.
As for the Tahs - they lost an international level coach and around 5 international level players. It's hard to reason how they would match the same performance as the last two years ( as it is they're still top of the Aus conference currently)
Overall we're sucking in Aus because we've got at least a team of Wallaby calibre players OS and/or injured ATM and our playing stocks just can't cope with that. Couple that with the Reds and Force coach selection debacles and you've got a train wreck that is unfolding.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
Can I just add in my favourite topic of poor development pathways. Our top players in Oz are more often now picked into an EPS side before they leave school or just after. I have been told time and time again that it isn't a Super Rugby coach's job to teach basic skills, and again was told that with regard to NRC coaches who have a very narrow window of opportunity to coach a game plan and execute it. So where do the younger players coming through learn the trade?
Answer:- No where. It is only the fabulously talented or cut above that really make it, no development over time, you are either there or not.
Contrast with the NZ youngsters who learn through the grind of the ITM cup and other local competitions which are genuine competitions of length with a good mix of old heads and newbies to learn from. Then add in the specialist coaches running around NZ like Mike Cron teaching all and sundry technical skills.
Moonoo as for the assertion that the Tahs should somehow be doing better than they are with the current resources, well I would agree to a certain extent, but if you look back to the start of the year they are about exactly where many of us predicted they would be with the player roster changes and a new coach, in terms of the overall table. So if they were a business I would say they have met the performance markers. I am not happy with the lack of skills and coaching aspects (Blades) but that fits with all of Oz Rugby.
As for the Reds and Force they are also exactly where we predicted, in the shit house, though with the Reds sacking their coach a few weeks in their play is exceeding that of the Force (with similar playing stocks) in terms of quality at many times even though the Force has had stability in coaching for years.
The Rebels as Gagger said is where the Force should be after all these years and the resources that have been put in. The Rebels continue to underperform one week and out perform other but they have some results on the board and have achieved some decent table results in their lifetime. The highlights of the Force in their lifetime are individual wins over big teams, my favourite being the win against the Crusaders years ago.
My point in my usual ramble is yes I am disappointed by the Tahs, but that is tempered by the fact that they are exactly as predicted, indeed maybe a bit better. The only side I am truly disappointed by is the Brumbies, they have totally underperformed and whilst I still think they will top the Oz table they will be humiliated a week later on current form.
pissedoffihavetoregister
Alfred Walker (16)
Did holloway do his shoulder again?
If so is that him gone for the year?
Cheers
If so is that him gone for the year?
Cheers
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Highlights:
The Tahs have lost their "big" tight workers over the past few seasons and they have been replaced with more mobile athletic kids and Mumm - who lack the angry grunt
So those gain line dominations of previous seasons in attack and defence have been reduced markedly, so we are seeing less front foot ball after a couple of phases and less dominant tackles to counter ruck
I can see why Gibson has been adjusting the structure to more ball in hand from the previous pods of bish and bash, but we are a fair way off it working against the decent teams
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