Congratulations France

[Fredfreduels]

Watching the game again it was much more exciting than I remember it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPkUvfL8T1I

 

[GreenFrogg]

Thanks a lot for yours congratulations, we did our best...
Perhaps, one time we'll won

 

[Bardon]

Interesting insight into just what was happening in the French camp duing the world cup from Imanol Harinordoquy.

Imanol Harinordoquy says the French team ignored coach Marc Lievremont at the World Cup because he was "lost".

The World Cup runners-up came in for criticism after some poor performances in the pool stages, losing to Tonga and New Zealand before reaching the final.

Lievremont called some of his squad "spoiled brats" after they went against his instructions not to celebrate their semi-final victory over 14-man Wales.

"He was lost, I will not miss him," said number eight Harinordoquy.

"After the defeat against Tonga I did not attach too much importance to what Marc said."

France were beaten 37-17 in their opening Pool A game by the All Blacks before losing 19-14 to underdogs Tonga.

However, Les Bleus defeated England 19-12 in the quarter-finals before edging past Wales 9-8 in the last four.

Lievremont, who was replaced as France coach by former Sale boss Philippe Saint-Andre after the 8-7 defeat by New Zealand in the final, later explained that his words following the victory over Wales were meant affectionately.

However, Harinordoquy remained unimpressed.

"It was our adventure. It was meant to be the nice experience of 30 men," the Biarritz forward told the French rugby bi-weekly Midi Olympique.

"We had to free ourselves from his supervision. He cast the stone at us too often. When something goes wrong, we're all in the same boat. There are no good or bad guys."

Despite the problems within the team, France's World Cup campaign came close to ending in victory.

Captain Thierry Dusautoir's try with half an hour remaining set up a nerve-shredding finale at Eden Park but Francois Trinh-Duc missed a long-range penalty and the All Blacks held on for victory.

Harinordoquy felt that the World Cup final referee, South African Craig Joubert, had some part to blame, missing several indiscretions by New Zealand captain Richie McCaw.

"He was only looking at us," said Harinordoquy. "He [McCaw] played the whole match in our camp. He did a lot of [bad] things and nobody told him anything.

"Three minutes from the end of the game, I saw him dive on the side of a ruck and he stayed there for ages."

 

[GreenFrogg]

Harinordoquy is a wonderful player, who began in professionnal rugby in my club.
It's not a lie to say that he had more things under the shirt that under the hair.
He is a little prétentious and have'nt all the necessary respect about people.
But it's true that he takes the leadership of an self-managed team in the last week. In french, we say "il a pris les clefs du camion" (he takes the truck keys)

It must be said that French Federation wasn't very fair with Lievremont in annoncing Philip St André as follower manager BEFORE the compétition.

Sorry for my english, me too i do my best

 

[Jethro Tah]

Welcome aboard GreenFrogg. Stick around and keep your comments coming. Any insight you have on Les Bleus or the Top 14 would be appreciated.

Your Froglaise is just fine.

 

[Scarfman]

Bienvenue grenouille verte, interesting stuff. Of course, there's a few people around here who will agree with Harinordoquy about Richie. The interesting thing is that they were without a coach, and almost won the whole thing. At the Brumbies, they won their last Super Trophy without a coach. And two of the Wallabies most successful coaches - Alan Jones and Rod Macqueen were not technical rugby coaches. I mean, if you have someone like Larkham at 10, why would you try to tell him what to do.

It's evidence for my theory that sides are overcoached. Give them information, sure. Show them some video of their opposite number and what he tends to do. But I reckon the more the players own the performance the better.

 

[Jnor]

So Robbie is 'overcoaching' now, scarfie?

 

[GreenFrogg]

Welcome aboard GreenFrogg. Stick around and keep your comments coming. Any insight you have on Les Bleus or the Top 14 would be appreciated.

Your Froglaise is just fine.

I'm so sorry, i'm just became un strictly supporter of my team. I don't care others french teams, especially in top14 because my team is yet in Prod2 (second league). We're playing to get the top14 for a couple of years, and there i'll look for top14 teams. For the moment, i just hate them :lmao:

More seriously, i'm an old guy of 52 years and my (old) rugby is dead. I find the actual rugby too near of XIII and i don't take a lot of pleasure in top14 matches.

But by reason one of the better stranger of my club, surely the best one, was a famous australian player, Garrick Morgan (never forgot by anyone and eternally in the best XV of my club), it would be my pleasure to answer to any question you have. Sent me a pm with the link of the topic and i'll answer with pleasure to any question (please use an easy english)

 

[Jethro Tah]

Ok Green Frogg, I am just counting down the minutes till you get your first question or discussion about Prod2 from a Monsieur Lee Grant.

 

[GreenFrogg]

Ok Green Frogg, I am just counting down the minutes till you get your first question or discussion about Prod2 from a Monsieur Lee Grant.

OK

For the moment i have the first question there

 

[GreenFrogg]

Scuse me Scarfman for the during of the answer, it takes time for me to good understanding.
Sure it will be interesting that players can take the management of their team but it would be possible when you have a building way of playing in club, and it's probably possible with a national team where the game is simpler and the personal technic better. In this case for little time, i think
We have some case also in rugby clubs but principally when clubs are in the deep of the classement and in the mind, for saving, but i doubt it will be possible for a club team which play for the title