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The past Aus 20's sides have been very disappointing on the world stage. I am still astonished at how they select the side, however this year's Aus 20's team should finish in the top 4.
A very close encounter, and a very physical game. Congratulations to Parramatta and we look forward to the return match at Chatswood. The lift in club spirit is a testament to the hard work by the club, tip the hat boys. Also Belly thanks for the chat after the game.Parra Colts beat Gordon 25-17
Parramatta Colts have submitted a match report for the win over Gordon on the Two Blues website. There are also photos available in the media gallery.A very close encounter, and a very physical game. Congratulations to Parramatta and we look forward to the return match at Chatswood. The lift in club spirit is a testament to the hard work by the club, tip the hat boys. Also Belly thanks for the chat after the game.
Believe it was 126-0. Twenty tries and 13 conversions (by the hooker!)Can anyone confirm the Penrith v Syd Uni score of 162-0?
I concur.Believe it was 126-0. Twenty tries and 13 conversions (by the hooker!)
Absolutely right Gibbo. So what can be done? We can forget about the ARU or NSW doing anything meaningful, so it really comes down to Penrith finding a way. While by no means claiming a recovery after only 5 rounds, a year ago the Two Blues were in the same position. While there was commitment from the board, Head Coach and Management to rebuild Colts, in the end it came down to a fortuitous combination of: 1) a successful 2012 for the First Grade team, which gave back some credibility to the club as a viable Rugby pathway; 2) a successful under 17's rep team and associated club players who were keen to stay together; 3) a group of Oakhill College boys wanting to stay together; 4) a very good coach and communicator wanting to coach at Colts level and choosing Parramatta as a place he could work his program along side the seniors program. Perhaps Penrith could look to Prariewood High, Blue Mountains Grammar or any other local school with some sort of Rugby program and follow a similar plan? In any case, Rugby needs Penrith AND Parramatta, despite an apparent lack of interest from the governing bodies in retaining club Rugby in Western Sydney.Jesus - that's not good for anyone.
Jesus - that's not good for anyone.
Some good comment and good ideas there Ryan09 and hopefully the good folk at the Emus are considering similar strategies. I think it's fair to say that the governing bodies don't seem to have the stomach for putting any more money into the West (possibly understandable based on past results) but alignment with schools and/or coaches is a low cost option that may work for them.Absolutely right Gibbo.
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In any case, Rugby needs Penrith AND Parramatta, despite an apparent lack of interest from the governing bodies in retaining club Rugby in Western Sydney.
Thank you, 2bf, for the opportunity to shed some light on this seemingly straightforward issue. I speak from the perspective of a very undersized front rower who believed that the main reason for playing rugby was that it enabled you to participate in the absorbing sport of scrums.But returning, for a moment, to Gibbo's comment "that's not good for anyone" - I think we could ask that Bruce Ross pass a message to the Uni Colts coaching staff that the travesty of hookers kicking goals should be immediately quashed.
Good point, Huge. If it had been a winger kicking I doubt there would have been an apostrophe.I have posted this before on the Schoolboys thread.
The hooker in question, Tom Wilson, was kicking for Aust Schoolboys in the "Test" against the Darkness Schoolboys last year at Auckland Grammar School. The game was televised.
In one of the close ups of the kicking tee, on some tape on the Tee, Tom had written in texta "DON'T MISS" with a big smiley face next to that.
Who said us fatties don't have a sense of humour?
Bruce, I now see the error in my logic. Thank you so much for assisting me to see the light. As an ex-forward I am particularly ashamed of my fuzzy thinking on this matter.But once you have to factor in swirling gusty winds you need to make use of the most cerebral member of the team, someone capable of making precise calculations under conditions of extreme psychological stress. That would of course normally be the tight head but hookers are typically cunning, relatively undersized glory hunters who are obsessed with seeing their names on the score sheet and given to pushing themselves forward.
However, if the choice is between a blow-waved, leg-waxed space cadet and an actual contributor to the messy business of securing the ball for the backs to squander, it is entirely appropriate and just for the hooker to assume the goal kicking role.
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Ah an ex-forward who has become a rampaging centre.Bruce, I now see the error in my logic. Thank you so much for assisting me to see the light. As an ex-forward I am particularly ashamed of my fuzzy thinking on this matter.
Ex as in retired. My path was in the opposite direction, started on the wing in the Under 10s but I saw the light by the Under 15s and went to flanker where I remained (mostly) until the Under 39s.Ah an ex-forward who has become a rampaging centre.
Thank you, 2bf, for the opportunity to shed some light on this seemingly straightforward issue. I speak from the perspective of a very undersized front rower who believed that the main reason for playing rugby was that it enabled you to participate in the absorbing sport of scrums.
You seem to be suggesting that it is somehow inappropriate for hookers to be taking kicks for goal. I would agree with you entirely, if and only if all games were played in indoor closed-roof stadiums where there is little or no variability in the conditions under which goal attempts are taken. But once you have to factor in swirling gusty winds you need to make use of the most cerebral member of the team, someone capable of making precise calculations under conditions of extreme psychological stress. That would of course normally be the tight head but hookers are typically cunning, relatively undersized glory hunters who are obsessed with seeing their names on the score sheet and given to pushing themselves forward.
However, if the choice is between a blow-waved, leg-waxed space cadet and an actual contributor to the messy business of securing the ball for the backs to squander, it is entirely appropriate and just for the hooker to assume the goal kicking role.
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