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Trevor Allan (34)
lealiifano/To'omua/fainifo are all in the mix i reckon as should be tsmith. if he's not there, then i don't know....
i think higgers gets a shot and mckibbon or even kingi? also mclinden or shaw maybe?
def need another hooker and younger is the way to go so probably fitzy. maybe edmonds but that's going against "the plan" i would say. he doesn't look long term. are either of mowen or caldwell healthy at this point?
nick cummins perhaps. maybe fairbrother to get him in aussie colours?
what could be just as interesting is to see who misses out. will cowan, hodgson, valentine, brown, beale, and cross be asked back? will the old guard of waugh, baxter, and sharpe be left out? with morty and kimlin out injured (i think) there could lots of openings to go around.
i think higgers gets a shot and mckibbon or even kingi? also mclinden or shaw maybe?
def need another hooker and younger is the way to go so probably fitzy. maybe edmonds but that's going against "the plan" i would say. he doesn't look long term. are either of mowen or caldwell healthy at this point?
nick cummins perhaps. maybe fairbrother to get him in aussie colours?
what could be just as interesting is to see who misses out. will cowan, hodgson, valentine, brown, beale, and cross be asked back? will the old guard of waugh, baxter, and sharpe be left out? with morty and kimlin out injured (i think) there could lots of openings to go around.
3rd hooker must be a chance of being a smokey.
3rd half will also be interesting.
A 6/8 to back up Elsom, who is a real lineout option, would be on my list as well.
Will Cross be surplus to requirements?
:baxter: will they take him? If not, who?
:waugh: will they take him? If not, who?
3rd half will also be interesting.
A 6/8 to back up Elsom, who is a real lineout option, would be on my list as well.
Will Cross be surplus to requirements?
:baxter: will they take him? If not, who?
:waugh: will they take him? If not, who?
The problem is that the way rugby is being played this year you nearly need three fullbacks, those three all fit that criteria. When you add that to Digby being in the mix as soon as he is fit, Morlock returning - so AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) may be on one wing; I just don't see him fitting in.
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TOCC
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i reckon maybe Higginbotham
Let's presume for the sake of this argument the old codgers (Baxter, Dunning, Mortlock, Sharpe and Waugh) are surplus to Deans' requirements. Dingo made a point of checking Palu's fitness on the weekend; I reckon he's on his last chance in a Wallaby jumper next Saturday. Mowen and/or Hodgson should get another opportunity, as should Kepu and Cowan. There seems to be plenty of cover in the backs, especially if Ioane reports fit for duty in November. So what do we need? Another second-rower perhaps? Someone who can play 6 or 8? Will Dingo develop Rocky AND George to play back of the scrum?
My prediction for smokies is a hooker, a second-rower who can play 6 at a pinch, a bloke who can play 6 and 8 and someone who can play fullback. Does anyone know how Dingo rates Shepherd? Has Cam ever played in a Deans team? It'd be nice if the bugger wasn't always injured; does Cam hang around with Heenan, MMM and FU Watson?
Hey, I'm about to do a Norman!
My prediction for smokies is a hooker, a second-rower who can play 6 at a pinch, a bloke who can play 6 and 8 and someone who can play fullback. Does anyone know how Dingo rates Shepherd? Has Cam ever played in a Deans team? It'd be nice if the bugger wasn't always injured; does Cam hang around with Heenan, MMM and FU Watson?
Hey, I'm about to do a Norman!
Grandmaster Flash
Johnnie Wallace (23)
Shep started in Deans' first Wallaby game v the Frogs in 08 (where Kevvy's face got turned to mush by Hairydonkey) where he broke his leg.
Would like to see Chapman (2nd row, 6 and 8 cover) and Higgers go. Think Mowen is out till next year.
Would like to see Chapman (2nd row, 6 and 8 cover) and Higgers go. Think Mowen is out till next year.
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Vay Wilson (31)
Epi said:
I think Cummins is at least as good a prospect of Fainifo.
I also dont think Higgenbottem will go. I just dont think he is at the right level yet. Fantastic start to the season but then died in the arse
As a real bolter, maybe Wykes?
Id love to see Caldwell in a Wallaby jersey but dont see it happening. Chapman would be good too. As well as Daley and that other young first year prop who's name escapes me.
I dont see the point of taking Baxter and Waugh away with us. They arent really going to be in the long term plan.
Cummins is fair, but offers nothing different to Hynes for instance. Fainifo is raw, really raw, but he has something few of our backs has...real pace. Turner has it, but Fainifo is quicker yet I would hazard a guess. I can think of a few tries that might have been scored this season if only for a wing man with pace on the outside.
I think both are real prospects, but Fainifo would be more likely my gut tells me.
Higginbotham? A bit underwhelmed, and I reckon Chapman is more likely as a versatile option.
I too reckon Caldwell could be OK - has some angry in him (but controlled, not stupid Sheehan type anger) but I too would be surprised if he went.
Palmer - yup, but Dingo has Cowan, Alexander is looking good. Maybe the Pieboy, who can play both sides of the scrum too? Not impossible.
Tyrone would be on my list for a go.
Problem will be how many can fit on the plane?
I think both are real prospects, but Fainifo would be more likely my gut tells me.
Higginbotham? A bit underwhelmed, and I reckon Chapman is more likely as a versatile option.
I too reckon Caldwell could be OK - has some angry in him (but controlled, not stupid Sheehan type anger) but I too would be surprised if he went.
Palmer - yup, but Dingo has Cowan, Alexander is looking good. Maybe the Pieboy, who can play both sides of the scrum too? Not impossible.
Tyrone would be on my list for a go.
Problem will be how many can fit on the plane?
jason
Sydney Middleton (9)
On a related note, do you reckon any of them will get real game time? There won't be any easy Italy/Barbarians style matches (except for maybe Scotland) and I hope Dingo doesn't sacrifice a grand slam for the sake of blooding rookies. RWC is obviously the long term goal, but let's not foresake "what's in front of us". Getting an exposure to Wallaby coaching/training will be a big help in itself.
Very good point, Jason. I thought as much after posting - it's a grand slam tour, and they don't come along often. I'm all for building to a goal (RWC) but potentially winning a grand slam would be a huge boost along that path.
I think you are right that few will see major game time, but maybe time on the road with the team, training day-in, day-out with them in the Test environment could be good for some up and comers. But realistically only a few.
But it's nice to hypothesize.
I think you are right that few will see major game time, but maybe time on the road with the team, training day-in, day-out with them in the Test environment could be good for some up and comers. But realistically only a few.
But it's nice to hypothesize.
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Spook
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fatprop said:
Ioane might take Mortlock's position as centre...or Cross's posy. Turner may be considered a fb..could be room for other outside backs??
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