Chiefs vs Waratahs QF 4 June 2.35 AEST

[Rugbynutter39]

Tahs to continue the Coleman juggernaut or the Chiefs to spoil the party…

 

[Dan54]

This has making of a good one RN, genuine chance of going either way I think.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

This has making of a good one RN, genuine chance of going either way I think.

Tahs would take underdog status but a chance…although I felt that chance diminished with that performance against the blues as tahs had no spark. Need to quickly find it to have chance against the chiefs at home.

 

[Dan54]

Yep well Hamilton due for a fair bit of rain this week, but think it meant to improve a bit by weekend, and FMG stadium does have bloody good surface, so not too bad hopefully.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Sam Cane was mostly an observer at training today & is at best a 50% chance of playing.

 

[Braveheart81]

Nic Berry is the referee.

 

[Drew]

When are teams named?

 

[Braveheart81]

I assume it will be 5pm on Wednesday as usual for the Australian teams.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

When are teams named?

Tribe Assistant Coach said they'd re-assess Cane at Thursday's training before naming their 23, so that would suggest Thursday arvo or Friday morning.

 

[Drew]

Tribe Assistant Coach said they'd re-assess Cane at Thursday's training before naming their 23, so that would suggest Thursday arvo or Friday morning.

Thanks and to BH

 

[7137]

Nic Berry is the referee.

Fuck…..
The three worst games this year
51-27 loss to Chiefs. Referee, Nick Berry
32-20 loss to Reds. Referee, Nick Berry
27-20 loss to Brumbies. Referee, Nick Berry

In fact the only game we’ve won was the first against the Drua where we were so utterly dominant he likely had little opportunity to vent his hate.

 

[Lightblue]

Fuck…..
The three worst games this year
51-27 loss to Chiefs. Referee, Nick Berry
32-20 loss to Reds. Referee, Nick Berry
27-20 loss to Brumbies. Referee, Nick Berry

In fact the only game we’ve won was the first against the Drua where we were so utterly dominant he likely had little opportunity to vent his hate.

Loves a penalty… is there a referee out there that can let the game flow and understand that not every technical penalty to the letter of the law, needs to be awarded?

 

[Lightblue]

HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) maybe a chance. Perese won‘t be fit to play.

 

[Marce]

HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (Harry Johnson-Holmes) maybe a chance. Perese won‘t be fit to play.

Perese for Tahs backline is so vital like Kerevi for Wallabies backline. No Perese, no wrecking ball

 

[John S]

If HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) is fit, we've at least got a chance at parity at scrum time, scrum while not been dismal while he's been injured, hasn't been ideal

 

[Lightblue]

If HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (Harry Johnson-Holmes) is fit, we've at least got a chance at parity at scrum time, scrum while not been dismal while he's been injured, hasn't been ideal

Getting pushed off ball v Blues before half time with them only having 6 was the loss right there. We should have put on two tries at least during that period. Hope HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) is fit.

 

[Froggy]

To be fair, the Tahs weren't actually pushed off the ball, Holtz was popped, which is more one prop dominating his opposite number rather than the whole scrum being rolled. It was a bit of a lesson for Holtz, and it got to him, as he started early engaging after that. Hopefully he emerges all the better from the experience.

 

[Running_rugby_1954]

To be fair, the Tahs weren't actually pushed off the ball, Holtz was popped, which is more one prop dominating his opposite number rather than the whole scrum being rolled. It was a bit of a lesson for Holtz, and it got to him, as he started early engaging after that. Hopefully he emerges all the better from the experience.

It’s a good thing it happened in that game, he will be able to fix it from seeing what was going on. Good lessons learned for Archer for long term.

 

[Hawko]

Getting pushed off ball v Blues before half time with them only having 6 was the loss right there. We should have put on two tries at least during that period. Hope HJH (Harry Johnson-Holmes) (Harry Johnson-Holmes) is fit.

Like you I hope Johnson-Holmes is fit, even if its only for the first 40 or so. No criticism of Holtz, he's a rookie still learning his trade, and he's done really well so far but learning to prop takes years. Look what Franks did to us in the Canes game after we creamed their starting front row. Its the primary reason we lost that game. That's what experienced front rows bring (not that Johnson-Holmes is an old prop either). We just need our best props on first to set the tone, particularly as Berry is not a noted scrummaging ref and will blow us off the park if he thinks we are getting dominated.
If he's out I would start Smith. He was good in his last outing, even around the park (surprised me too) and would just supply that first 40 stability that's so vital. Then bring on Holtz just after half time to finish the Tribe off.

 

[fatprop]

Like you I hope Johnson-Holmes is fit, even if its only for the first 40 or so. No criticism of Holtz, he's a rookie still learning his trade, and he's done really well so far but learning to prop takes years. Look what Franks did to us in the Canes game after we creamed their starting front row. Its the primary reason we lost that game. That's what experienced front rows bring (not that Johnson-Holmes is an old prop either). We just need our best props on first to set the tone, particularly as Berry is not a noted scrummaging ref and will blow us off the park if he thinks we are getting dominated.
If he's out I would start Smith. He was good in his last outing, even around the park (surprised me too) and would just supply that first 40 stability that's so vital. Then bring on Holtz just after half time to finish the Tribe off.

Young props getting schooled is always going to happen, I was more disappointed with his attitude afterwards

Just nod your head, mutter "c*nt" under your breath and plan to get him at the next scrum