Chiefs v Force Round 11 in Cowtown

[ChargerWA]

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[ChargerWA]

Rightio, with the Wooden Spoon firmly in our grasp it's time to experiment and see what we have going forward.

I think Burton is the real deal and I also think he can be the long term 10 we need. Time to start developing his combo with Godwin for long term.

10. Burton
12. Godwin
13. Rasolea
14. Scott
15. DHP

 

[Mr Pilfer]

I agree except I would prefer Brache at 13 or maybe even give Cummins a shot at 13 and see what he can actually do if he touches the ball.

Morahan on the other wing or even give the Japanese bloke a go. Nothing to lose now.

Wykes to the bench also.

 

[Braveheart81]

I'd really like to see Burton and Godwin provided with different headbands.

I found it quite difficult telling the two apart at first glance when I watched the game on Saturday night.

 

[Melchior]

the chiefs to self destruct in front of their home fans and force pull off the upset of the season. force by 1.

 

[ChargerWA]

It's not completely outside the realms of possibility. The most frustrating thing about the Forces losses have been that they have played ok. I would even go as far to say as they played better than the opposition in general play in 3 of the games but failed to create the final piece of the puzzle. Scoring points.

Saying that, for that to happen the Chiefs would have to play badly and the Force to their full potential. But with Hodgo back, I'm guessing off the bench anything could happen.

But to have a chance we will need to shutdown SBW's offloading. So Godwin has to come into 12 and another big body at 13. Maybe honey badger? He's not so big, but he's ferocious. Also the loosies are gonna be busy so Mafi to 5, Cottrel to 6 and Alcock to 7 until Hodgo comes on. Wykes out of the 23 and Steenkamp to the bench lock spot. Pek Cowan (c).

 

[Melchior]

don't think Alcock was named in the touring squad.

 

[Dan54]

Be interesting to see if Damian McKenzie starts at 10 for the Chiefs (and for rest of season) or will it be Horrell or Marty McKenzie?

 

[Brumby Jack]

Be interesting to see if Damian McKenzie starts at 10 for the Chiefs (and for rest of season) or will it be Horrell or Marty McKenzie?

Here's your answer

1. Mitchell Graham
2. Hika Elliot
3. Siate Tokolahi
4. Matt Symons ©
5. Brodie Retallick
6. Johan Bardoul
7. Sam Cane
8. Michael Leitch
9. Brad Weber
10. Marty McKenzie
11. Tim Nanai-Williams
12. Sonny Bill Williams
13. Charlie Ngatai
14. Bryce Heem
15. Tom Marshall
16. Quentin MacDonald
17. Pauliasi Manu
18. Ben Tameifuna
19. Michael Fitzgerald
20. Liam Squire
21. Augustine Pulu
22. Damian McKenzie
23. Andrew Horrell

 

[Dan54]

Interesting if that's how Rennie sees it for rest of season, or maybe a trial type game for Marty, got a couple of good options regardless.

 

[Hawko]

Here's your answer

1. Mitchell Graham
2. Hika Elliot
3. Siate Tokolahi
4. Matt Symons ©
5. Brodie Retallick
6. Johan Bardoul
7. Sam Cane
8. Michael Leitch
9. Brad Weber
10. Marty McKenzie
11. Tim Nanai-Williams
12. Sonny Bill Williams
13. Charlie Ngatai
14. Bryce Heem
15. Tom Marshall
16. Quentin MacDonald
17. Pauliasi Manu
18. Ben Tameifuna
19. Michael Fitzgerald
20. Liam Squire
21. Augustine Pulu
22. Damian McKenzie
23. Andrew Horrell

I don't understand how Damien McKenzie didn't take the 10 shirt. On his form in the first few games I wasn't sure Cruden would get his jumper back when he returned from injury. McKenzie was a star in those games (and for my fantasy team too).

 

[Lee Grant]

We shouldn't assume that Rennie is choosing his best team for the Force game.

Marty Mac was very good for Taranaki in the ITM Cup games I saw them play, and they got the bikkies.

He's not the rainmaker that Damian is and never will be but Rennie has to look at Marty as a starter sometime so why not against the team with the worst record in Super Rugby? Horrell or Damian Mac will maybe get a shot also, perhaps against the Rebels.

We may not know who Rennie really fancies as his best no. 10 until the Chiefs play the Hurricanes in Round 14.
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[Nipper]

Rightio, with the Wooden Spoon firmly in our grasp it's time to experiment and see what we have going forward.

I think Burton is the real deal and I also think he can be the long term 10 we need. Time to start developing his combo with Godwin for long term.

10. Burton
12. Godwin
13. Rasolea
14. Scott
15. DHP

Does Burton have a background at 10 at the club/schools level?

Agree about the rest (and HB at 11). IF Rasolea can step up - he hasn't really done it this year. I'd also like to see Prior start at 9. I think Ably is great for this team, but he seems burnt out or something.

Sias isn't the guy to lead this team around the park. I don't know what's up with Zac Holmes - injured or just out of favor?

If Burton does have that background at 10, it's time to chuck caution to the wind and go with him. There's only one way to find out if he's the guy.

 

[Dan54]

I agree with Lee on Marty Mac for chiefs. I also think that maybe at 19 Damian may profit from not having to be starting 10 to often, and just give him time off bench where possible during season. Have seen a few 'stars of the future' at 10 over the seasons that have struggled after looking good in a few games, when the pressure has been applied week in week out. Anyone remember Simon Hickey for Blues last year, looks great for a while, but the continual pressure I think perhaps made him lose confidence.

 

[Moono75]

Chiefs v Western Force


1. Pekahou Cowan
2. Nathan Charles
3. Tetera Faulkner
4. Steve Mafi
5. Adam Coleman
6. Angus Cottrell
7. Matt Hodgson (c)
8. Ben McCalman
9. Ian Prior
10. Sias Ebersohn
11. Nick Cummins
12. Luke Burton
13. Kyle Godwin
14. Luke Morahan
15. Dane Haylett-Petty

Reserves
16. Heath Tessmann
17. Chris Heiberg
18. Oliver Hoskins
19. Wilhelm Steenkamp
20. Kane Koteka
21. Ryan Louwrens
22. Junior Rasolea
23. Marcel Brache ​

Mitch Scott misses out on the wing again!

 

[ChargerWA]

Our best looking forward pack this year.

I haven't tipped the Force yet this year. But I will this week. The Chiefs have rested Messam, Lowe and Tamiefuna with Cruden out injured. That's disruspect!

 

[Moono75]

I agree Charger. That the forward pack looks as good as it has this year and I hope they lift for Peks 100th cap. I wonder if Sias will play 80mins or if they will slide Burton or Godwin to 10 for a cameo?

Looks like Mitch Scott has been included in the touring squad just for a trip home. Don't understand what the issue is with giving him some game time. Do they think he is too small (175cm & 80kgs) for this level?

The only bonus I guess is I'm taking Friday off so will enjoy a few pints watching the game and the Brumbies v The Clan following. Oh and Monday is a holiday in WA......take that Eastern States yeeaah!!!

 

[wamberal]

How on earth could the Force have a chance, flying back from Africa to Auckland?


Absolutely ridiculous scheduling.

 

[GaffaCHinO]

How on earth could the Force have a chance, flying back from Africa to Auckland?


Absolutely ridiculous scheduling.

We have been in perth the last 2 weeks.

 

[Moono75]

Good day so far. Time for some rugby...Go Force!