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Fred Wood (13)
Knox 10+
Cranbrook 30+
Waverley 3+
Cranbrook 30+
Waverley 3+
CAS Rugby 2023
- Thread starter rod skellet
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Ron Walden (29)
The history of the competition is wonderful to hear. Snort I know you did a lot of work building the records formCAS rugby. Is it possible to share it on here again?
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Here you go - sort of up to date...
What years was a home and away comp played?
Presumably from beginning to when Waverley joined in the mid-40s.
And again from somewhere in the 2000s to 2016?
Game_Day_Ritual
Ted Fahey (11)
Br Brian Murphy, blast from the past one of the finest schoolboy rugby coaches of that generation.Not sure how you know it was a trial basis, that's news to many, but it certainly wasn't communicated to the CAS teams as such, and the fact that ALL the CAS schools did play each other but NOT the other 2 may be coincidental ( I think not ) but doesn't sound like a serious trial to me. If it was the real thing then Barker and Pius would have found time for just 1 game to complete the "Trial". Our Coach Br Murphy, who was instrumental in school boy footy at that time, never mentioned any such trial.
We were instructed that if we beat Barker at Barker in the very last game then we would be the outright winners of the CAS comp.
Had we lost, it would have been a 3 way tie with Aloys and Barker!
Such was the pressure and crowd for that last game, and the real winner is written in the CAS Rugby records, and it doesn't say Aloys!
It's an Aloys convenient conspiracy!
So someone else, ie the CAS board etc, must have also agreed who really won.
I did note that Aloys have a picture of the 1979 team as winners in their clubhouse, cheeky buggers, so do we at Queens Park.
FYI we never played Pats or Pius in any other sport!
Ancient history now, and Yes times are very different now, and we should move with the times.
Game_Day_Ritual
Ted Fahey (11)
Maybe head down the path of the GPS. Looking at some results in reality and no dis service to Aloys maybe create a model like High and Grammar have. In essence play 4 home games then 4 away games. Aloys plays either in the seconds comp or thirds. In essence all CAS teams have two cracks at one another which means if you lose one game you can still go on and win the CAS (benefits include the premiership could go all the way down to round 8 and more footy for the kids which is a good thing given lost time in the Cov19 years). Maybe at the front end of the comp couple of CAS teams have an unofficial match up against Oakhill and Auggies and at the back end of the season this plays out again with different CAS teams at the back end. There can be a new competition and/or shield for these games which has the best of ISA play the best of CAS.
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Ah, but WLF, I beg to differ. In the CAS round on 18 November 1978, Cranbrook beat St Aloysius, Trinity played a dull draw with Barker and Waverley played St Patricks in the cricket. It was a draw - St Pats 216 (Paul Grimble and the very slow Dave Thomas made runs), Waverley 6-165 (McKay and Coorey scored fifties). I assume this was the game in which John Coorey claims to have broken Justin Gleeson's glasses. Now, WLF, if what you meant was that you never scored any runs against St Pats...
WLF3
Billy Sheehan (19)
You are being pedantic! Maybe I did forget about that Cricket game, as I don't remember it. It wasn't a CAS comp game! Of that I am sure.
And whilst unsure I would have thought we played Knox that day if it was a real CAS round!
Keen to know your source on this, and it may have been 1`of the few days I didn't score lots of runs
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
WLF, I disagree with you on few things, but the point to remember about CAS sport back in the day was the crazy pretence that (apart from swimming and track) there were no competitions. So in one sense there were no CAS competition games at all. Thankfully we grew out of that...
WLF3
Billy Sheehan (19)
Agree Snort, we disagree on not much, but this discussion has run its race. We will have to agree to disagree, my final word is that the season was always organized such that the CAS schools all played each other at the end of each season, logically why, to determine the best CAS school footy team. Everyone knew it was a comp for the member schools, if there is a technical reason why it wasn't a comp is silly (not from your end) because everyone knew what it all meant.
I will be at Trinity tomorrow, as will many other Waves fans, I REALLY hope Trinity has good support, the team definitely deserves it.
May the best team win!
Let me know, I hope to say G'Day.
schoolboyfooty
Allen Oxlade (6)
Go Waverley!
Snort
Nev Cottrell (35)
Game day.
And it's odd, because there are three schools in the hunt for a premiership, but it doesn't really feel like a cliffhanger.
Waverley, of course, will be premiers no matter what happens. And I would love Trinity to upset them at Summer Hill this afternoon. But I can't see it happening. Waverley has too much gas, and Trinity probably pushed itself to the peak of its potential in beating Cranbrook and Barker. Knox put 50 points on Trinity; Waverley is better than Knox. Logic says that Waverley wins. I can't see Waverley being complacent about this one - it's their last game for the school and they're playing for an unbeaten premiership.
At the start of the season, when Waverley was struggling, I thought that Knox v Barker was likely to be the premiership decider. Now Knox looks by far the stronger side and I expect them to win fairly comfortably today. Even then they'll need a miracle at Summer Hill to get their hands on a share of the Plume Shield.
And I expect Cranbrook to flat-track-bully a win over St Aloysius.
It would be nice to be wrong (for once).
And it's odd, because there are three schools in the hunt for a premiership, but it doesn't really feel like a cliffhanger.
Waverley, of course, will be premiers no matter what happens. And I would love Trinity to upset them at Summer Hill this afternoon. But I can't see it happening. Waverley has too much gas, and Trinity probably pushed itself to the peak of its potential in beating Cranbrook and Barker. Knox put 50 points on Trinity; Waverley is better than Knox. Logic says that Waverley wins. I can't see Waverley being complacent about this one - it's their last game for the school and they're playing for an unbeaten premiership.
At the start of the season, when Waverley was struggling, I thought that Knox v Barker was likely to be the premiership decider. Now Knox looks by far the stronger side and I expect them to win fairly comfortably today. Even then they'll need a miracle at Summer Hill to get their hands on a share of the Plume Shield.
And I expect Cranbrook to flat-track-bully a win over St Aloysius.
It would be nice to be wrong (for once).
Famed_Star
Allen Oxlade (6)
Snort,
I will say, as a Waverley supporter, Trinity will be well prepared and excited for the game today. So it is anyone’s game. While Waverley would no doubt love undefeated, Trinity have had a hard 12 months as a school, so it would also be no shame in sharing the title.
Good luck to all today.
Goosestep
Jim Clark (26)
What happened ???
DavidMurray11
Frank Row (1)
People are sleeping on Aloysius. The crowd for the soccer is huge, and it hasn’t stopped growing all day. Aloysius have the heart to get it done, and the crowd could certainly be a key factor in an Aloysius underdog victory.
rod skellet
Desmond Connor (43)
5 nil Knox