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CAS Rugby 2023
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Frank Row (1)
I had the pleasure of watching the 2nd XV wav vs Cranbrook and thought the 16th man ( ref) did let the brookies in. With a few dodgy calls and a pick-and-go try that was offside gave Waverley a tough time especially a side that has been shaken and rattled with boys coming in and out of 1s all the way down to the 4ths much like any other school. Waverley scrums were dominant with the forwards really testing the Brookies strength in many aspects of the game. Brookies backs dominated and ran around the Waverley back three, especially with one binned for a stupid mistake ( not having a go at the ref there! ). Finally, Waverley with dominant scrums testing their prop depth with a sin bin in the 1st half, continued to be dominant throughout the game with the substituted prop pushing and controlling the brook loosehead.
Brook's best players: 8, 13, 15 6
Waverley's best players: 8, 13, 14, 3, 5
Waverley vs Cranbrook 1XV. was a gutsy tough game with what was thought as a childhood dream for Caleb Sinclair Harris (12) to be able to put the foot on the throat and kick a field goal in the dying moments against a local rivalry in your home ground in front of what felt like with both whole's schools in attendance! wow!.
if anyone was there I would be delighted for you to share your take on the game
Hector
Peter Burge (5)
52-7 Baker over Aloys: an excellent win by Barker and no one should get carried away with comparing this to how many points BC put on SAC in the last 2 fixtures.
Barker’s backline looked incredibly threatening every time it went through the hands. The centres are amazing, and the #13 is really something else. All the backs were slick, skilful, professional looking. Barker’s forwards were a menace, the tight five and the two props in particular. But they do need to work on a few things: (a) discipline which let them down, (b) individual decision making around the park (not from #10 though, he was excellent) and (c) responding to pressure. It's probably all one thing – they clearly expected to put 90 plus on SAC as Katoa's teams had done, and when it didn’t happen they weren’t happy and got frustrated. Both the #15s were under pressure all day, SACs from the kicks and chases, BCs from his own expectations and it told. There are obviously better CAS sides out there than SAC, so BC will need to deal with that. But returning to the first point, their backline looked as good and skilful and functional as any of seen at this level by me (and it did appear their usual #9 was out too and running the kicking tee instead). I believe the #10 is quite young. Big shoes, but he's already good and will be very, very good I'd guess.
SAC despite the score probably played as well as a unit of all the games I’ve seen this season. I'd say the gap in skill and effectiveness between their known top 3 or 4 players and everyone else in the side was much less noticeable. Yes, there were dropped balls and some stilted play in the backs, but they defended purposefully and clearly executed the game plan they were given. Made good decisions for the most (especially #12's quick tap for the try). They were never going to threaten BC properly (and I'm sure loved leading 7-5 for a small fraction of time), but hung in there and played to the best of their ability.
Aloys aren't going to be threatening titles, but they can be competitive enough at times. While I've not watched the Youtube 2015 videos of BC v SAC that are on the last couple of pages someone has been putting up, I remember watching games that year. A good non-numerical indicator of it not being really that long ago is that the current 2023 winger's brother was the 2015 winger (and his twin the #7 that year).
But depth will be an issue. A few injuries already, and if that gets worse it will be pretty tough. The Peter Murray Memorial Trophy match against Knox will be a difficult onslaught to stem, but hopefully the Term 3 matches will allow them to punch on a little.
Barker’s backline looked incredibly threatening every time it went through the hands. The centres are amazing, and the #13 is really something else. All the backs were slick, skilful, professional looking. Barker’s forwards were a menace, the tight five and the two props in particular. But they do need to work on a few things: (a) discipline which let them down, (b) individual decision making around the park (not from #10 though, he was excellent) and (c) responding to pressure. It's probably all one thing – they clearly expected to put 90 plus on SAC as Katoa's teams had done, and when it didn’t happen they weren’t happy and got frustrated. Both the #15s were under pressure all day, SACs from the kicks and chases, BCs from his own expectations and it told. There are obviously better CAS sides out there than SAC, so BC will need to deal with that. But returning to the first point, their backline looked as good and skilful and functional as any of seen at this level by me (and it did appear their usual #9 was out too and running the kicking tee instead). I believe the #10 is quite young. Big shoes, but he's already good and will be very, very good I'd guess.
SAC despite the score probably played as well as a unit of all the games I’ve seen this season. I'd say the gap in skill and effectiveness between their known top 3 or 4 players and everyone else in the side was much less noticeable. Yes, there were dropped balls and some stilted play in the backs, but they defended purposefully and clearly executed the game plan they were given. Made good decisions for the most (especially #12's quick tap for the try). They were never going to threaten BC properly (and I'm sure loved leading 7-5 for a small fraction of time), but hung in there and played to the best of their ability.
Aloys aren't going to be threatening titles, but they can be competitive enough at times. While I've not watched the Youtube 2015 videos of BC v SAC that are on the last couple of pages someone has been putting up, I remember watching games that year. A good non-numerical indicator of it not being really that long ago is that the current 2023 winger's brother was the 2015 winger (and his twin the #7 that year).
But depth will be an issue. A few injuries already, and if that gets worse it will be pretty tough. The Peter Murray Memorial Trophy match against Knox will be a difficult onslaught to stem, but hopefully the Term 3 matches will allow them to punch on a little.
scrumhead99
Fred Wood (13)
Hey mate,
I love your support for Waverley, but I feel as though the ref had gone both ways, both teams had recieved calls which they shouldn't have. The 8 for Cranbrook also got yellow carded, as did the Waverley back, I thought both were unfair. Apart from this your write up looks good.
Although I do feel it is a bit unfair to put more Waverley standouts then Cranbrook as Cranbrook won that 2s game. I feel as if some of the players you have mentioned, such as 13 and 8 had a average game.
Your thoughts?
Halfbackenthusiast
Ted Fahey (11)
Waves have a tough task this week having to back up after a massive game against a strong brook side, for their match against barker at barker. It’s the first time waves 1st XV have played at barker since 2019, should be a cracking match, with a big crowd. Can’t wait!
Jumping_jack
Ward Prentice (10)
Should be a spectacular game.
Interesting tidbit, Waverley have only lost once in the last 10 years at Barker College. They lift for the big games against the boys in red at Barker. Will be a cracker.
Halfbackenthusiast
Ted Fahey (11)
Waverly vs barker is my favourite game of the year, the physicality between the two sides is on a next level. Both teams lify and go out and belt each other
Greg.Kelly
Frank Row (1)
HB,
While I can't deny that waverly v barker will be a spectacle I feel it's definitely in contention with the Aloys v Trinity game at Trinity as despite their results they seem to be a strong matchup at the rear end of the comp. Despite the home ground advantage that Trinity will have I'm sure both sides will bring their A game to what's adding up to be a sight to behold with what I'm sure will be a large crowd.
Kell Out.
Homer
Billy Sheehan (19)
Despite this essentially the whole Waves team got invited to U16 CAS trials, twice as many as Brook. Knox is undefeated this year in the 16s (with probably the toughest pre-season draw) and still got a lot less than Waves as well.
However, looks like CAS will have a very strong u16 team this year no matter what.
so what your saying is that the kids from Waverley have matured earlier than their peers and such are bigger, faster, stronger. So why dont we give it 3 years and see how dominate they are..... who actually cares about what happens in the 13-15's so much of the results are determined by the physical attributes of the kids and has little to do with their skill as a rugby player.
Running_rugby_1954
Ron Walden (29)
What were this years Cranbrook firsts kids like when they were in year 7?
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FoleyBealeFolau
Ward Prentice (10)
Yeh sorry mate i imagine you mean "where were they in year 7" clearly you were educated at the College of Knowledge.
Running_rugby_1954
Ron Walden (29)
Most people can infer the meaning of sentences with spelling mistakes. But fixed it for you to help with understanding.
Jumping_jack
Ward Prentice (10)
Classic Cranbrook. Needs to be spoon fed to know what’s going on.
A real shame the silver spoon didn’t work on the weekend.
bill clune
Bob McCowan (2)
With Cranbrook losing to Waverly on Saturday, I believe they are looking at a bottom 2 finish this CAS season, they can not be throwing games away like that to schools such as Aloys and Trinity which are looking to overwhelm them this year.
Jumping_jack
Ward Prentice (10)
Only 4 of the Waverley boys invited played on the weekend in the 16a’s game. The rest are in firsts and seconds.
JohnEalesFanAccount
Frank Row (1)
Stop trolling, Aloys and Trinity are the clear bottom 2 this year. Cranbrook will easily beat both sides.
JE.
scrumhead99
Fred Wood (13)
Hahaha, This is meant to be a joke right?
Bill, if you were there at this game and I am sure WLF, Rugby League, and other members of this forum who were at the game can agree Cranbrook were the better team, with some unlucky decisions.
They will not be bottom two, most likely placing 4th.
FoleyBealeFolau
Ward Prentice (10)
Classic Waverley boof heads, unable to take a joke
scrumhead99
Fred Wood (13)
Evidentially, They aren't that good, as the 2nds lost to Cranbrook, as did the 16as. In the 2s I believe Waverley 12 Tom Mckenna was nominated for CAS 16a trails. The Cranbrook 12 Fletcher Gill physically dominated their 12, I believe both are a year young.