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CAS Rugby 2016

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The older I get

Bob McCowan (2)
Knox played some very good rugby today winning 43-3 in the local derby against a lacklustre Barker. It was quite a try-fest; with the Knox backs including Myers, Stocks and Armstrong scoring, while No.10, Woodcock carved-up their backline with 2 superb tries.

Barker appeared to have little firepower compared to previous years and are obviously in a rebuilding phase. Their 15 Lloyd played well when he got the ball. However, you just can't make an impact when your team is under so much pressure.

Sadly the game was marred by a nasty injury to Max Cutrone who may be out for the season.

It likely that Waverly next week will be much stiffer competition.
 
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The Waverley Trinity game was a very physically tough affair ...a scrappy stop-start game but entertaining nevertheless. A lot of penalties given ... the penalty count must have been at least 3 to 1 against Waverley.

From a CAS perspective, a pleasing feature of the game were the performances of the Year 12 players from both schools. Players who have had 1st XV experience in the previous 2 or 3 years.

From Trinity:
1 Wayland is a powerhouse and is Trinity's answer to a McLennan replacement.
6 Rasch was his usual dominant self at the lineout and had a strong game in attack and defence.
12 Morris was a handful with ball in hand and is a punishing defender. Had a good battle with Fuller.
15 Longville had limited opportunities but looked fast and dangerous every time he ran with the ball.

From Waverley:
11 Mohi had limited opportunities but still scored 2 tries and showed his skill and speed.
9 Jordan is a tough, running style of scrum half and wasn't afraid to mix it up with the forwards. Put in a nice cross field kick for Mohi catch on the full and score.
12 Fuller made several line breaks .. looked dangerous with the ball and defended strongly.
13 Yoannidis made a big break to score the first try and very strong in defence.
7 O'Sullivan never stopped working in defence and attack and was rarely far away from the ball.

The two number 8s: Rogers-Smith from Waverley and Trinity's Tuitavake both had big games.
The young Trinity winger 14 Hollingworth-Dessent is one to watch. He's not only fast, he's tough and did a good job containing Waverley's Mohi.

Waverley wont get away with giving so many penalties away next week against Knox.
 

rod skellet

Desmond Connor (43)
To big and to strong was main theme of Knox's big win over Barker.

What is hard to fathom is how did this Knox team lose 36/3 to Joeys with the amount of talent in the team?

Ireland (4) Frost (5), Margin (6) and Basson (8) were dominant all day not only at set piece time including kickoffs, but also around the park with ball in hand.

In the backs Armstrong (3) and Woodcock (10) were my picks, with speed and a good read of the game to take the opportunities.

For Barker it was a game they can be proud of. Outweighed by 10kg per man in the scrum they never ever gave up and played in the spirit one expects.

For mine Coghil (2) was the of the Reds forwards, really taking the ball to the advantage line with some colossal hits.

In the backs, Tejcek (9) had a great game behind a pack that was under the pump all day.
 

BRUMBIEJACK

Larry Dwyer (12)
The Waverley Trinity game was a very physically tough affair .a scrappy stop-start game but entertaining nevertheless. A lot of penalties given . the penalty count must have been at least 3 to 1 against Waverley.

From a CAS perspective, a pleasing feature of the game were the performances of the Year 12 players from both schools. Players who have had 1st XV experience in the previous 2 or 3 years.

From Trinity:
1 Wayland is a powerhouse and is Trinity's answer to a McLennan replacement.
6 Rasch was his usual dominant self at the lineout and had a strong game in attack and defence.
12 Morris was a handful with ball in hand and is a punishing defender. Had a good battle with Fuller.
15 Longville had limited opportunities but looked fast and dangerous every time he ran with the ball.

From Waverley:
11 Mohi had limited opportunities but still scored 2 tries and showed his skill and speed.
9 Jordan is a tough, running style of scrum half and wasn't afraid to mix it up with the forwards. Put in a nice cross field kick for Mohi catch on the full and score.
12 Fuller made several line breaks .. looked dangerous with the ball and defended strongly.
13 Yoannidis made a big break to score the first try and very strong in defence.
7 O'Sullivan never stopped working in defence and attack and was rarely far away from the ball.

The two number 8s: Rogers-Smith from Waverley and Trinity's Tuitavake both had big games.
The young Trinity winger 14 Hollingworth-Dessent is one to watch. He's not only fast, he's tough and did a good job containing Waverley's Mohi.

Waverley wont get away with giving so many penalties away next week against Knox.

For mine, 6, 15 and 1 were the pick of Trinity and I would probably say that 30-13 flattered the men in green even though they toiled valiantly all day. Their tries came from a quick tap, punt downfield and footrace and the last play of the day which is reflective of the dominance of Waverley at Trinity's ground. Waverley by contrast are adventurous and left points on the field today as a consequence of chancing their arm. Trinity are committed but lack much in the way of creativity. Waverley got hammered in the penalty count as well, yet still dominated most areas which says much about the two sides' individual skills.

Trinity defend well, are committed but don't have that x factor to beat the better teams. Waverley by contrast appear to be gelling as a team. None of them are prefect but they play as a team and the comraderie that marks a good team is apparent. That's not to say that they will beat Knox, but I am always alert to the motivating factor of a good little team of have-nots being sufficient sometimes to beat the physically larger team of have-everythings.

As I've said before, when you pour lots of resources into schoolboy rugby you expect to win - the ultimate underperformance is to lose to an under resourced team who plays better. So on the upper North Shore next week it will be interesting to see whether the corporates of Knox can beat the socialists of Waverley. On paper Knox has the cattle and the resources to smash all-comers, but this Waverley team has gelled and it will be a classic contest next week. As the IRA said to the British government - you have to be lucky every time; we only have to be lucky once. Bring it on.
 

CatchnPass

Vay Wilson (31)
Some first world problems there BJ - not questioning the greater resources of Knox, but Waves as private school socialists? Might be a few at Mt Cumbucca West High having a wry chuckle at that one as the Waves boys do a recovery session off the dive tower into the school 25m pool.
 

Backsaresmarter

Frank Row (1)
Best Players for Barker, no order:
Lloyd - Broken play running
Coghill - line-outs and hit ups
No. 8 - clean outs and defence

Best players for Knox, no order:
Basson - Mr Everywhere
Frost - Hitups and attack
Woodcock - great attack and defence
Bosch - sniping runs and kicking game
 

lenny

Stan Wickham (3)
The Waverley Trinity game was a very physically tough affair .a scrappy stop-start game but entertaining nevertheless. A lot of penalties given . the penalty count must have been at least 3 to 1 against Waverley.

From a CAS perspective, a pleasing feature of the game were the performances of the Year 12 players from both schools. Players who have had 1st XV experience in the previous 2 or 3 years.

From Trinity:
1 Wayland is a powerhouse and is Trinity's answer to a McLennan replacement.
6 Rasch was his usual dominant self at the lineout and had a strong game in attack and defence.
12 Morris was a handful with ball in hand and is a punishing defender. Had a good battle with Fuller.
15 Longville had limited opportunities but looked fast and dangerous every time he ran with the ball.

From Waverley:
11 Mohi had limited opportunities but still scored 2 tries and showed his skill and speed.
9 Jordan is a tough, running style of scrum half and wasn't afraid to mix it up with the forwards. Put in a nice cross field kick for Mohi catch on the full and score.
12 Fuller made several line breaks .. looked dangerous with the ball and defended strongly.
13 Yoannidis made a big break to score the first try and very strong in defence.
7 O'Sullivan never stopped working in defence and attack and was rarely far away from the ball.

The two number 8s: Rogers-Smith from Waverley and Trinity's Tuitavake both had big games.
The young Trinity winger 14 Hollingworth-Dessent is one to watch. He's not only fast, he's tough and did a good job containing Waverley's Mohi.

Waverley wont get away with giving so many penalties away next week against Knox.
Agree 100% with your assessment. Be great to see the ball visit that very capable backline on a more consistent basis. Seems to get caught up around the base of the scrum too often when the obvious first choice is to move the ball out.
 
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sidelineview

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Agree 100% with your assessment. Be great to see the ball visit that very capable backline on a more consistent basis. Seems to get caught up around the base of the scrum too often when the obvious first choice is to move the ball out.


You're referring to Waverley I assume. A puzzling comment given all the ball the backs have seen in the first 2 rounds.
 

Kilgore Trout

Herbert Moran (7)
Question for the rule buffs - Knox v Barker Ist half ref had his arm up indicating advantage to barker - barker booted the ball down field unit Knox 22 ref put his whistle up to his mouth about to blow for the penalty deeming no advantage but then sees the ball bounce awkwardly and decides to let play continue the Knox winger I think leaps high for the ball and appears to be fouled by a barker player and lands heavily - the linesman waves his flag to indicate the foul - after a long consultation the ref marches back to the site of the original infringement by Knox and give Barker a penalty 2 questions - barker kicked the ball long why wasn't that advantage over ? If barker commits a foul while it's their advantage does this get ignored (perhaps the ref didn't agree with the linesman that it was a foul)


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Elfster

Alex Ross (28)
Question for the rule buffs - Knox v Barker Ist half ref had his arm up indicating advantage to barker - barker booted the ball down field unit Knox 22 ref put his whistle up to his mouth about to blow for the penalty deeming no advantage but then sees the ball bounce awkwardly and decides to let play continue the Knox winger I think leaps high for the ball and appears to be fouled by a barker player and lands heavily - the linesman waves his flag to indicate the foul - after a long consultation the ref marches back to the site of the original infringement by Knox and give Barker a penalty 2 questions - barker kicked the ball long why wasn't that advantage over ? If barker commits a foul while it's their advantage does this get ignored (perhaps the ref didn't agree with the linesman that it was a foul)


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Yes, I thought that a little odd. I think the ref went for his original feel. But it did look like a foul to me. And the Knox player went off injured as a result.
But that was from my view high up - the ref may have seen it from a different angle.
 

BRUMBIEJACK

Larry Dwyer (12)
Some first world problems there BJ - not questioning the greater resources of Knox, but Waves as private school socialists? Might be a few at Mt Cumbucca West High having a wry chuckle at that one as the Waves boys do a recovery session off the dive tower into the school 25m pool.


Absolutely - i may have used a bit of poetic licence there, and everything is indeed relative. Realistically, any threads discussing CAS/GPS rugby are by definition dealing very much with a privileged subset of first world problems.
 

Karma Police

Allen Oxlade (6)
That Waverley half might be missing for a few games. Clear head butt in a midfield scuffle with Rasch. Hard to believe all 3 match officials missed it, but it might have been caight on tape. I don't know if there is a retrospective judiciary.

Also hard to believe a player could lose his discipline like that, then go looking for more having dodged a bullet.
 
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sidelineview

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That Waverley half might be missing for a few games. Clear head butt in a midfield scuffle with Rasch. Hard to believe all 3 match officials missed it, but it might have been caight on tape. I don't know if there is a retrospective judiciary.

Also hard to believe a player could lose his discipline like that, then go looking for more having dodged a bullet.


That's a lopsided viewpoint of what happened. Are you sure he was the aggressor in that scuffle and in a continuing running battle with the same Trinity forward who happened to be significantly larger?
 

BRUMBIEJACK

Larry Dwyer (12)
So clear evidently nobody appeared to see it other than you. Given relative height difference b/w Waverley 9 and Trinity 6 there must also have been a small ladder involved as well. Methinks he'll be playing next week and rest of the season.
 

RugbyFan14

Herbert Moran (7)
And look at the crowds that watch the 1st XV as opposed to the 1st XI.

Barker Knox soccer on Friday night played to a packed house on Knox No.1. Saturday afternoon rugby had spare seats at both ends. Smallest crowd i've seen at this fixture in many years
 

Karma Police

Allen Oxlade (6)
Lopsided?

Apologies, I must have missed that rule that says it's ok to headbutt someone if there's been some niggle.

And by the way every opposition forward will be bigger than that Waverley half. Hopefully his other friends will pull him up for it, rather than excusing it. You just can't lose your cool like that, and a headbutt?

He almost did need a ladder. He was almost jumping to do it, it's why it was so easy to see. And plenty saw it.

Don't be surprised if the Trinity officials check the tape.
 
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sidelineview

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Lopsided?

Apologies, I must have missed that rule that says it's ok to headbutt someone if there's been some niggle.

And by the way every opposition forward will be bigger than that Waverley half. Hopefully his other friends will pull him up for it, rather than excusing it. You just can't lose your cool like that, and a headbutt?

He almost did need a ladder. He was almost jumping to do it, it's why it was so easy to see. And plenty saw it.

Don't be surprised if the Trinity officials check the tape
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There's nothing like a good policeman to tut tut his way through post game analyses after a good hard game of schoolboy rugby. Plenty saw this alleged vicious act of violence from David to Goliath is your conclusion but not the referee and 2 linesmen. Thats strange. I'll wager Trinity's 6 and Waverley's 9 are still mates. Waverley's 9 should be reminded not to be such a big bully towards the opposition's huge forwards and attack their kneecaps.
 

The Oracle

Stan Wickham (3)
There's nothing like a good policeman to tut tut his way through post game analyses after a good hard game of schoolboy rugby. Plenty saw this alleged vicious act of violence from David to Goliath is your conclusion but not the referee and 2 linesmen. Thats strange. I'll wager Trinity's 6 and Waverley's 9 are still mates. Waverley's 9 should be reminded not to be such a big bully towards the opposition's huge forwards and attack their kneecaps.
So by this logic , Trinity should have sent a player shorter that Waverley 9 to headbutt him in return . That would be OK ? I saw this blatant act of thuggery and would have sincerely hoped that the school would take action independently of any judiciary. Leaguies would call him a grub , I believe.
 
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