Carter, Rokocoko , Inhoff - Corticosteroid Use (Allegedly)

[ACT Crusader]

He could've just said, "happy that's all over, see you on the field".

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Bugger. Was hoping for extended jailtime. Would've made invaluable additions to the AllTime Crim 1st XV

http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/community/threads/all-time-crim-1st-xv.15143/page-9#post-886233

Carter doing the rodeo in Joliet easily usurps Willie Ripia from starting line-up, him with his poxy "dressing room looting." Small time.

J.Rok's tossing salad in cell block H, thank Christ for some speed out wide, piss off "John Ryan", total passenger out there.

Imhoff completes a lethal (haha, "lethal") back 3, Eric Rush can try his luck at "Alltime 7's Crim 1st VII". It's 7's, as if anyone would give a shit

 

[Ignoto]

Bugger. Was hoping for extended jailtime. Would've made invaluable additions to the AllTime Crim 1st XV

Plenty of time for that to happen, they retest samples years down the track

For those that simply chalk these types of 'false positives' as being business as usual, David Millar (ex doping cyclist) wrote an excellent piece in the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/how-to-get-away-with-doping.html

 

[Dismal Pillock]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/opinion/sunday/how-to-get-away-with-doping.html

I wish J.Rok all the best in his endeavor to organise and win the first-ever Tour de Onehunga.

 

[Gnostic]

Not directly commenting on this as the details are sketchy still, but my issue in sport currently to do with TUEs is the lack of real transparency. Corticosteroids have their place for treating many medical and injury-related conditions, but there is no doubt at all that they do confer a performance advantage in sports. A cortisone injection with local anaesthetic to get a player through a match is one thing, but certain corticosteroids have a degree of benefit from stripping fluid and weight in cycling, apart from the temporary general feeling of awesomeness one gets when taking a short course. If anyone thinks the system as it stands is not open to some degree of abuse, they are naive.

Again, I'm not directly commenting on these cases, more the general issue.

Mr Cyclo would you think that the application of such medications by a medical professional which has the ability to mask the pain caused by an injury could have the unintended consequence of exacerbating the injury, or placing the patient in danger of causing permanent/serious damage to themselves. Do you consider there to be an ethical issue in such prescriptions?

For example there are the historical cases of players being given significant doses of medication to allow them to play with broken bones. What risk that not feeling the (real) pain from one break allows them to push the boundaries of the physical and either inflict serious harm on themselves or others?

 

[cyclopath]

Mr Cyclo would you think that the application of such medications by a medical professional which has the ability to mask the pain caused by an injury could have the unintended consequence of exacerbating the injury, or placing the patient in danger of causing permanent/serious damage to themselves. Do you consider there to be an ethical issue in such prescriptions?

For example there are the historical cases of players being given significant doses of medication to allow them to play with broken bones. What risk that not feeling the (real) pain from one break allows them to push the boundaries of the physical and either inflict serious harm on themselves or others?

Yes, they could have unintended consequences. But if they have fully informed consent, the risk is on the player's head. Theoretically. But it is murky.