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Burke strikes back

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vidiot

John Solomon (38)
Please, someone make him stop.


Let's go a little deeper and play a game of hypothetical. Your current team is outside the top six and the team you are playing for next season has a shot at securing a home semi. By the way, you have just signed a three-year deal. The events of the game end up with you having a kick to win and knock your new team to fifth on the ladder and lose all the trimmings that go with hosting a semi-final. Do you a) convert the goal; b) get a cramp on the way into kick and shank it; or c) hand the kick over to the second stringer.

I know the answer is b) get a cramp on … I mean a) convert the goal, but upon conversion, would there be any resentment as you take up your new post the following year?

Resentment? I'll show you resentment.
 

kronic

John Solomon (38)
Here here, picked up the Sun Herald last night, had a read of his dribble this morning. Geez.
 

ShtinaTina

Alex Ross (28)
I don't think he even knows what he's on about. I re-read it a few times & still couldn't make sense of it.
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
Your current team is outside the top six and the team you are playing for next season has a shot at securing a home semi. By the way, you have just signed a three-year deal. The events of the game end up with you having a kick to win and knock your new team to fifth on the ladder and lose all the trimmings that go with hosting a semi-final. Do you a) convert the goal; b) get a cramp on the way into kick and shank it; or c) hand the kick over to the second stringer.

I know the answer is b) get a cramp on ... I mean a) convert the goal, but upon conversion, would there be any resentment as you take up your new post the following year? A quiet snipe by the CEO perhaps about budgets for example.
Athletes might be some of the fittest people in the world, but even they cannot stand up to some forms of rough play. And when rough play is a given aspect of sports such as football and hockey, it should be no surprise that players are finding themselves dealing with the long-term effects of the rough play they took part in during their athletic careers.
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Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
There are other examples of how "rough play" can have "long-term effects" on the cognitive capability of footballers. Consider this brain-teasing example of abstruse logical inference from the man who may well have inspired Matt Burke to become a rugby philosopher, David Campese, writing in The Roar:
At the 1991 Rugby World Cup, I weighed 82kgs. By the time of the 1995 World Cup, I was up to 92kgs because of the arrival on the scene of Jonah Lomu. My mum thought I was on steroids! That increase in weight impacted significantly on my style of rugby. I didn’t feel as light on my feet as I had 4 years earlier.

He increased his bodyweight by 12% and "didn't feel as light on my feet". Who would have thought?

But that's not the logical conundrum that's still got me perplexed. I'm struggling to get the connection between Campo putting on 10kg and "the arrival on the scene of Jonah Lomu" Surely he wasn't contemplating tackling him. If so, as I remember it, he soon thought better of it.
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cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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There are other examples of how "rough play" can have "long-term effects" on the cognitive capability of footballers. Consider this brain-teasing example of abstruse logical inference from the man who may well have inspired Matt Burke to become a rugby philosopher, David Campese, writing in The Roar:

He increased his bodyweight by 12% and "didn't feel as light on my feet". Who would have thought?

But that's not the logical conundrum that's still got me perplexed. I'm struggling to get the connection between Campo putting on 10kg and "the arrival on the scene of Jonah Lomu" Surely he wasn't contemplating tackling him. If so, as I remember it, he soon thought better of it.
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Maye the arrival of Jonah depressed him, and he ate to find comfort?
Maybe seeing such a specimen as Jonah looming large on the field triggered repressed body image issues?
Maybe he used to tag along with Jonah when he used to eat several pizzas at a sitting, and like the stuffed crusts?
All logical explanantions, Bruce.
 

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
Campo may never have been the tackler or big defender but he was hardly the turnstile that many would like to paint him as. He had one particularly bad season, which was the foundation for this reputation, and it was immensely bad. It wasn't as many suggest the arrival of Jonah, as they were invariably on opposite wings, it was in fact John Kirwan and I think the year was 1989.

In the end Campo came out on top of that contest and then there was a new threat to meet and he did very well in that regard, the original tank winger, Vaingaa Tuigamala.
 

p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
The point I like (genuinely) in the article is the discussion about the coaching clinic. Teaching kids to pass. At a junior level and well into teens at times, good fast players just reply on their speed to run around the opposition. Looks great at junior level but it doesn't allow you to develop your game. There are a number of very fast players at Super rugby level who reply on their pace and that's it. It's basic stuff but I'm encouraged to read they do teach kids the importance of not replying on their one trick. The NZ do so well because they pass and support. Hopefully the kids are listening.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
The point I like (genuinely) in the article is the discussion about the coaching clinic. Teaching kids to pass. At a junior level and well into teens at times, good fast players just reply on their speed to run around the opposition. Looks great at junior level but it doesn't allow you to develop your game. There are a number of very fast players at Super rugby level who reply on their pace and that's it. It's basic stuff but I'm encouraged to read they do teach kids the importance of not replying on their one trick. The NZ do so well because they pass and support. Hopefully the kids are listening.
True - but one coaching clinic does not mean that anyone else mentions it at their weekly sessions. A less obvious consequence of the "gifted" speedster who never passes is that the kids outside him (or her) become disillusioned with the game because they never touch the ball - i suggested to a kid in one of my son's teams that he should stand inside "x" so he gets the ball. "x" is just a hog - he doesn't have speed to burn - but the point remains a valid one.
 

Cutter

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Campo may never have been the tackler or big defender but he was hardly the turnstile that many would like to paint him as. He had one particularly bad season, which was the foundation for this reputation, and it was immensely bad. It wasn't as many suggest the arrival of Jonah, as they were invariably on opposite wings, it was in fact John Kirwan and I think the year was 1989.

In the end Campo came out on top of that contest and then there was a new threat to meet and he did very well in that regard, the original tank winger, Vaingaa Tuigamala.

Unfortunately for Campo, one of his not really attempted tackles lives on in the lead up to "that" tackle.

 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...e-pause-clause-sorted-out-20120616-20gmz.html

For well over a month now I have suspected that rugby's answer to Stephen Hawking has been on leave and someone has been ghosting his column. Fuck off, Sydney Morning Herald, and leave things alone. He might be a fool but he's our home grown fool. And in any case, if we wanted to read sensible articles about rugby we wouldn't be reading your paper to find them. Or the tabloid alternative for that matter.

Anyway our boy's back. Fresh from attending the State of Origin where he "was bombarded with questions by [his] non-rugby mates. [He] felt as if [he] was being interrogated from all sides about the state of our game." (He didn't jerry that his mungo mates were very likely taking the piss.) So that gave him a theme for his column:

"Sometimes there is ambiguity in the game that confuses all, so here goes in trying to clear the fog." Confuses some more than others. And "clear the fog"? You are the bloody fog.

On touch judges

"We also have assistant referees … sorry, touch judges. Did he touch the line? You be the judge … hence, touch judge." No, you dopey bastard. As Wikipedia explains: "The touch judge is an official who monitors the touch-line in a game of rugby union or rugby league and raises a flag if the ball (or player carrying it) goes into touch." It's not about touching the line; it's about signalling when "the ball (or player carrying it) goes into touch."

On the playing surface

" I flicked through a few more or the quirky laws of rugby ... While most of us play on grass, it's also comforting to know you can play on sand, clay, snow or artificial grass. Gee, thanks."

On the yellow card

" Referees need to be tougher with yellow cards. Make a statement that you have the card and brandish it, not give a token wave in the 76th minute." Listen up you blokes. I have a yellow card and this is what it looks like.

On the scrum

"I understand it's a contest and the intricacies are far beyond you and I, but what confuses most is the call before the actual engagement. Crouch … touch … pause … engage. How long is that pause? Is it an upward inflection from the referee, or down? It catches players out and the crowd gets disenchanted at the constant resets. So how do you fix it? I understand there is a safety issue but the scrum used to be self-regulated. The two packs would meld together and, for some reason, the ball came out and there'd be no need to set another scrum.

"The question posed was, why not play a scrum just as a platform to restart the game a la rugby league? In and out and be done, because what you really want to see is ball movement unless you live in scrumland. When done correctly, it is a genuine contest and one team can gain ascendancy and that's what separates the two games. So long live the scrum, just sort out that pause thing on the way."

And we have the arrogance to categorise the mungo game as "Rugby for the brain dead".
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Dam0

Dave Cowper (27)
Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Matt Burke, there is no doubt that he is a very ordinary writer. That column reminded me of a 13 year old's year 7 school essay.
 

Joe Mac

Arch Winning (36)
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...e-pause-clause-sorted-out-20120616-20gmz.html


"The question posed was, why not play a scrum just as a platform to restart the game a la rugby league? In and out and be done, because what you really want to see is ball movement unless you live in scrumland. When done correctly, it is a genuine contest and one team can gain ascendancy and that's what separates the two games. So long live the scrum, just sort out that pause thing on the way."

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How has this guy still got a job writing about rugby?
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
How has this guy still got a job writing about rugby?

He makes an excellent point. In addition, rugby should remove two men from the side, outlaw rucks, and after a set number of tackles the ball should go to the other side.

So simple!
 

Nelse

Chris McKivat (8)
To be fair, he said other people were asking questions of him and he writes "The question posed was, why not play a scrum just as a platform to restart the game a la rugby leage."

I thought the weird thing was that 2 of the key things he spoke about, i.e. the 'pause' in the scrum and the time it takes for kickers to kick, are 2 things they are changing next year. As if someone involved in the game as he is wouldn't know about the proposed changes to the laws and passes it off as his own opinion.
 
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