Burgess

[Spook]

Seems as though Josh Holmes is favoured in Tah land. How will this impact LBs Wallaby chances?

 

[Langthorne]

According to this SMH article (http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...waratahs-tinker-with-backs-20100503-u3tn.html) Burgess may be back in favour with the Tahs.

The consesus seems to be that Deans likes to stick with his selections, which would mean Burgess keeps his bench spot with the Wallabies. In any case, I don't think anyone has really got the bench spot sewn up. Obviously we have Genia and then daylight when it comes to the starting scrum half position.

Burgess would do his selection chances a lot of good if he just did everything fast (if you can't give accurate service, at least make it quick).

 

[fatprop]

Not this week, wallaby chances?

Someone has to play better and they are all flawed apart from Genia.

 

[chief]

I've always thought McKibbin had some serious talent on him. Surprised both Burgess and Holmes are constantly selected over this bloke.

 

[wamberal]

On the occasions that they have gone head-to-head in club matches, Burgess has totally outplayed Holmes. Holmes seems to be afraid of physical contact, which is a pretty big handicap for a top-line scrummie.

 

[rsea]

Move Giteau to 9 :fishing

 

[fatprop]

Burgess would do his selection chances a lot of good if he just did everything fast (if you can't give accurate service, at least make it quick).

That requires a far more organized Tahs attack, with multiple runner options and support ready for each phase.

This year, they just haven't worked hard enough to give Burgess options quickly enough. (apart form the Bulls game)

Half the time he is struggling to find someone prepared to run the ball.

 

[Newb]

Move Giteau to 9 :fishing

i've started leaning towards this theory lately. gits can be 12 and 9 cover. or someone else take the 12(a finger, JOC (James O'Connor), barnes?, cross??) and gits can be on the bench as cover for both.

allows for more forwards to be selected which may be a good thing the way the commitment to the breakdown seemed to wane in games last year. also a boost for late match scrums.

 

[Lindommer]

Move Giteau and JOC (James O'Connor) to 9:fishing

fixed

 

[rsea]

Move Giteau and JOC (James O'Connor) to 9:fishing

fixed

Between JOC (James O'Connor) and Giteau the whole backline is covered. Just pick 20 pigs and you're done

 

[topo]

Seems as though Josh Holmes is favoured in Tah land. How will this impact LBs Wallaby chances?

I suspect Burgess will be back at 9 for the tahs this weekend. The next 2 games may determine his Wallaby chances, although there aren't too many contenders sticking their hands up for the number 2 spot.

 

[Gagger]

Holmes has been disappointing. Another Hickey fuckup

 

[AussieDominance]

Not surprised Holmes was at Eastwood when Hickey coached?

 

[en_force_er]

Seems as though Josh Holmes is favoured in Tah land. How will this impact LBs Wallaby chances?

I suspect Burgess will be back at 9 for the tahs this weekend. The next 2 games may determine his Wallaby chances, although there aren't too many contenders sticking their hands up for the number 2 spot.

If you were going to pick on form Turner for the Force is playing very well. If you want more experience, which would be understandable, Valentine and Sheehan would be playing as well as Burgess at least.

 

[farva]

With a squad of 40 being picked, I assume that 3 scrummies will be picked. Id like to see the third being a development player. Who do you think it will be?
Kingi seems to be in the box seat as he had that position last year and I expect Deans will want to follow this through.
But Kingi has not had game time this year (that will probably change next year when he goes to Melbourne) and as a biased Force fan, Id love to see Justin Turner picked.
What other young scrummie options are there?

 

[en_force_er]

Farva,

As far as development scrummies go I think you'd be choosing between McKibbin, Turner or Kingi. With Turner the only one playing top flight rugby this year I'd say you'd have to go him.

By all means bring Kingi or McKibbin on the Spring Tour though.

 

[Reddy!]

Mckibbin is already 26. I think there are younger, and better options to choose from.

 

[naza]

Burgess would do his selection chances a lot of good if he just did everything fast (if you can't give accurate service, at least make it quick).

That requires a far more organized Tahs attack, with multiple runner options and support ready for each phase.

This year, they just haven't worked hard enough to give Burgess options quickly enough. (apart form the Bulls game)

Half the time he is struggling to find someone prepared to run the ball.

That's exactly right. I thought they were pretty much building their game plan around Burgess - a frantic pace and hard running forwards probing the fringes of the ruck. Unfortunately the rest of the team cannot step up. This should be obvious to anybody with a set of eyes ; hard to believe anybody could criticise Burgess for being too slow. His tradmark is his speed.

The Tahs' problem is the slow deliberate pace Phil Waugh insists they play at. What frustrates the shit out of supporters is that even at this sluggish snail like pace, they still struggle to execute basic skills.

 

[Spook]

I reckon Turner could make the squad.

 

[Biffo]

Burgess would do his selection chances a lot of good if he just did everything fast (if you can't give accurate service, at least make it quick).

That requires a far more organized Tahs attack, with multiple runner options and support ready for each phase.

This year, they just haven't worked hard enough to give Burgess options quickly enough. (apart form the Bulls game)

Half the time he is struggling to find someone prepared to run the ball.

That's exactly right. I thought they were pretty much building their game plan around Burgess - a frantic pace and hard running forwards probing the fringes of the ruck. Unfortunately the rest of the team cannot step up. This should be obvious to anybody with a set of eyes ; hard to believe anybody could criticise Burgess for being too slow. His tradmark is his speed.

The Tahs' problem is the slow deliberate pace Phil Waugh insists they play at. What frustrates the shit out of supporters is that even at this sluggish snail like pace, they still struggle to execute basic skills.

Right on the button, Naza. Burgess has to wait, at every breakdown, for Waugh to arrive so that he can ensure his game plan is followed.