Brumbies 2016

[mst]

Here's an idea..you suits could take your warm clothes to work.

some will i bet as its the only way they will make it to the game. But most don't finish at 4 these days, so a 6pm start is still an issue and why many have already signalled they wont make it.

I still don't get how starting 90mins earlier will solve the frost problem?

IMHO the Brumbies need to man up tell GIO that the frost is vendor issue, not an end user issue.

Will the Brumbies get compensated for lost revenue?

I will be interested to see how it impacts the TV ratings being outside of prime time which makes no sense.

 

[mst]

They had been investigating this for a few weeks and the frost was identified as a problem.

They could have turfed the Raiders to Manuka under the temp lights like they did back in 2001..

BJ - what has been the reaction of the sponsors like Aquis noting that the crowd numbers could be down and it drags the game out of prime time here, and partially in NZ which may impact ratings?

 

[mst]

SHIT!

Congratulations to the current Brumbies board!

ACT Brumbies face nervous wait to see if major sponsor Aquis will pull pin

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...nsor-aquis-will-pull-pin-20160716-gq74sm.html

 

[Merrow]

SHIT!

Congratulations to the current Brumbies board!

ACT Brumbies face nervous wait to see if major sponsor Aquis will pull pin

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...nsor-aquis-will-pull-pin-20160716-gq74sm.html

Whether they pull the pin or not has nothing to do with the Brumbies board. It's all down to whether the ACT government approves Aquis' development plans.

"Aquis committed to the Brumbies with the view to being part of a future Civic redevelopment, including a $330 million project
As reported in Fairfax Media in May, Aquis is believed to have an option to exit the deal in September to allow it to take into account the government's poker machine decision."

 

[Strewthcobber]

some will i bet as its the only way they will make it to the game. But most don't finish at 4 these days, so a 6pm start is still an issue and why many have already signalled they wont make it.

I still don't get how starting 90mins earlier will solve the frost problem?

IMHO the Brumbies need to man up tell GIO that the frost is vendor issue, not an end user issue.

Will the Brumbies get compensated for lost revenue?

I will be interested to see how it impacts the TV ratings being outside of prime time which makes no sense.

The early game on Friday has been regularly out rating the late game all year.

 

[mst]

Whether they pull the pin or not has nothing to do with the Brumbies board. It's all down to whether the ACT government approves Aquis' development plans.

"Aquis committed to the Brumbies with the view to being part of a future Civic redevelopment, including a $330 million project
As reported in Fairfax Media in May, Aquis is believed to have an option to exit the deal in September to allow it to take into account the government's poker machine decision."

Sponsors look at numerous factors. The poker machine decision is minor considering they will still own and operate the casino. The exit clause allows for renegotiation of the amount if the poker machine decision was in a negative, but right now the product is not a good sell even to its own supporters which is a massive influencing factor in a business that is all about image and reputation that Aquis is in.

Nothing to do with the Board at all:

Kennedy admitted the drawn-out Michael Jones saga "bruised" the club's fans, sponsors and stakeholders.

 

[Sully]

If you think Aquis aren't taking the board ruckus and infighting into account you're dreaming. If they think it's a good deal they will try and stay in if they don't they will use any excuse to get out.

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[Brumby Jack]

From what I can tell, the decision to play at 6pm wasn't made by the Brumbies. They can try and nominate a date but ultimately it's decided by SANZAAR in consultation with the broadcasters and since there was no Friday game, this is it.

The other thing at play is the possible travel factor for the Highlanders. Should they win, they may have to go to SA and want the extra day rest.

 

[mst]

Interesting report of how the 6pm game came about from Payten:

The kick-off time was a compromised result of the Brumbies failing to book Canberra Stadium early enough to stage a Saturday game in the first finals weekend, leaving it free for the Canberra Raiders.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...p/news-story/6a6e2eef9d7dbc4d23b735d2528ae82a

 

[mst]

If you think Aquis aren't taking the board ruckus and infighting into account you're dreaming. If they think it's a good deal they will try and stay in if they don't they will use any excuse to get out.

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I think Aquis may stay on board as Canberra is like a country town they will want to keep some goodwill. I wound not be surprised if they review the T&C's of the deal, value, duration etc.

I would go as far to speculate they are also sending a clear message to the Brumbies board, that same Board that has been identified both internally and externally (publicly) as not professional enough, that they are not impressed that sponsors money, Aquis money, that should be used for the Brumbies team, was used to pay out Jones due to a personally issue, not a performance issue, and dragging there name in to the press in the process due to what looks like egos!

Holden and Nissan have both either withdrawn or changed sponsorship arrangement in the last few weeks with Collingwood and the AFL footy show due to brand damage associated with the actions of certain people. The Brumbies board have run a real risk with sponsorship due to its actions this year.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

The Brumbies Board - more headlines than James O'Connor.

 

[cyclopath]

From what I can tell, the decision to play at 6pm wasn't made by the Brumbies. They can try and nominate a date but ultimately it's decided by SANZAAR in consultation with the broadcasters and since there was no Friday game, this is it.

The other thing at play is the possible travel factor for the Highlanders. Should they win, they may have to go to SA and want the extra day rest.

Reports today saying it was a decision made by the Stadium bosses (to start at 6pm not 7.30pm) as the NRL had locked in 3 TV games on Saturday so needed to start at 6pm so there would be enough time to repaint the field for NRL starting next morning, all fitting in with projected frost times. Or some such. Sounds complicated.

 

[mst]

The war continues and I predict there will be more with Court matters still preceding, the ACT election looming and Aquis to decide if it stays or goes.....

It is now fairly apparent that the Board has done significant damage to the Club ousting Jones.

Former ARU chairman Peter McGrath says time for ACT Brumbies chairman to take responsibility
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...n-to-take-responsibility-20160804-gqlgx6.html

Link to the Blog referred to in the article:
http://www.griffinlegal.com.au/blog/brumbies-in-crisis

 

[Brumby Jack]

This is getting beyond ridiculous now..

 

[Viking]

Sponsors look at numerous factors. The poker machine decision is minor considering they will still own and operate the casino. The exit clause allows for renegotiation of the amount if the poker machine decision was in a negative, but right now the product is not a good sell even to its own supporters which is a massive influencing factor in a business that is all about image and reputation that Aquis is in.

Nothing to do with the Board at all:

Kennedy admitted the drawn-out Michael Jones saga "bruised" the club's fans, sponsors and stakeholders.

I disagree. I think the poker machine decision is central. Canberra casino is a piece of crap, no-one goes there, not even with the refurbishments.

I can't imagine it being a hugely profitable business. Poker machines is a game changer and will ultimately be a drawcard that changes a failing casino into a profitable one. It simply does not feel like a real casino.

Along with the business develop that would see some huge growth potential, with that kind of growth forecast they can splurge on sponsorship deals which honestly probably only offer a small amount of goodwill.

Get poker machines in that casino already.

 

[mst]

I disagree. I think the poker machine decision is central. Canberra casino is a piece of crap, no-one goes there, not even with the refurbishments.

I can't imagine it being a hugely profitable business. Poker machines is a game changer and will ultimately be a drawcard that changes a failing casino into a profitable one. It simply does not feel like a real casino.

Along with the business develop that would see some huge growth potential, with that kind of growth forecast they can splurge on sponsorship deals which honestly probably only offer a small amount of goodwill.

Get poker machines in that casino already.

It is a factor, but if you have a look at the Aquis website then look at things like the fact they sponsor an NRL team in a location where they have no business and is not even close to the proposed Cairns development you may realise that reputation damage is a major factor.

The simple reality is would you want your business to be linked to what is publicly viewed as a clusters#%* that is ongoing and has killed off the positive changes they liked, other sponsors and stakeholders are still fighting and unhappy, and the game in general is struggling.

Then you add in that they are looking for private equity - so some one to potentially financially benefit from being involved in the Brumbies and benefit from Aquis money.

Wow!

Here is a question - would private equity want to fund Canberra rugby?

 

[Viking]

It is a factor, but if you have a look at the Aquis website then look at things like the fact they sponsor an NRL team in a location where they have no business and is not even close to the proposed Cairns development you may realise that reputation damage is a major factor.

The simple reality is would you want your business to be linked to what is publicly viewed as a clusters#%* that is ongoing and has killed off the positive changes they liked, other sponsors and stakeholders are still fighting and unhappy, and the game in general is struggling.

Then you add in that they are looking for private equity - so some one to potentially financially benefit from being involved in the Brumbies and benefit from Aquis money.

Wow!

Here is a question - would private equity want to fund Canberra rugby?

Great post mst.

I doubt private equity would, it's simply not directly profitable enough. I'm sure they have been posting losses for the last couple of years.

I say "directly" because they don't profit from economic increases which large sporting events can provide. Like the increased beer sales in pubs on footy night. Which I think is why government funding gets involved. A casino however, might be one of the limited companies who could see direct and indirect value in this. Most other sponsors will simply benefit from advertisement and goodwill.

Although I agree with your post. I was thinking we could put the mess from the board behind us but if your the major sponsor they will certainly take it all into consideration.

So it's not looking great, lots of factors involved. The Board has not helped at all.

 

[Slim 293]

Brumbies 2016: "Those awful fucking jerseys"

They went for a design reminiscent of the Brumbies most forgettable years, and it appears to have inspired the team to deliver the same level of mediocrity............

 

[Viking]

Brumbies 2016: "Those awful fucking jerseys"

They went for a design reminiscent of the Brumbies most forgettable years, and it appears to have inspired the team to deliver the same level of mediocrity....

I was going to upgrade my jersey this year... but then I saw it and thought I'd be better off waiting till next year. Horrible T-Shirt designs.

 

[Brumby Jack]

Some sad news regarding Christian Lealiifano that he has been diagnosed with Leukaemia..

Early stages yet so hopefully he can recover.