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Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
I don't think it's all just a development issue.

You can see in those ratings that no-one in NZ is watching Aus games. So we are asking NZRU to pay (and subsidise) players to playing in Australia, when the people they represent don't watch.

NZRU want the players they are paying a premium for to be making a commercial return for them, which they won't do playing for Australian teams
 

PhilClinton

Paul McLean (56)
It’s a great idea that would work well. Create more depth and jeopardy in the competition. It would help to bring it back up to a world class comp, and more eyeballs and money flows in. Look at the NRL, it’s thriving with a similar set up. But to do so it requires NZR and RA to stop viewing Super Rugby as a mere national development tool. But archaic, backwards thinking will likely prevent this from ever happening.
The NRL have nailed the eyes on screens due to state of origin.

I’ll often tune into a game between two teams I don’t care about because they have a couple of potential QLD selections and I’m keen to see how they play. I imagine there are a lot of casual viewers who do the same thing.
 

PhilClinton

Paul McLean (56)
I don't think it's all just a development issue.

You can see in those ratings that no-one in NZ is watching Aus games. So we are asking NZRU to pay (and subsidise) players to playing in Australia, when the people they represent don't watch.

NZRU want the players they are paying a premium for to be making a commercial return for them, which they won't do playing for Australian teams

Surely some type of marquee player system can come into effect, a seperate pool of money used for one player on each team which tops up that player contract.

For example it would mean NZRU could pay D-MAC $200k less for season 2026 if he signed with the Brumbies and was allocated their $200k marquee player bonus.
 

Adam84

John Eales (66)
The NRL have nailed the eyes on screens due to state of origin.

I’ll often tune into a game between two teams I don’t care about because they have a couple of potential QLD selections and I’m keen to see how they play. I imagine there are a lot of casual viewers who do the same thing.
Likewise, Storm are one of the top rating teams in QLD because of their long standing QLD state of origin ties.

It’s why I watch other Oz Super Rugby teams for the Wallaby connection, if there were more of that across the Tasman I might watch them also. Otherwise I have zero interest in turning on a NZ derby, even if it’s the GF
 

drewprint

Bob Davidson (42)
I definitely watched the Crusaders much more this year due to JOC (James O'Connor). But more than that it’s the genuine competitiveness and health of the competition. Again the NRL and AFL get this; a tight thriving comp with identifiable players across the board is what gets fans engaged. But for those sports the comp itself is the priority, not the national team/s so the priorities are reversed.
 

Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
Surely some type of marquee player system can come into effect, a seperate pool of money used for one player on each team which tops up that player contract.

For example it would mean NZRU could pay D-MAC $200k less for season 2026 if he signed with the Brumbies and was allocated their $200k marquee player bonus.
Dmac, seeing as we are paying 80% of your salary, we'd like you to come do a photoshoot with our new sponsor. Can you be in at HQ on Monday?

Sorry David, Stephen says I can't make it.
 

Rob42

Alan Cameron (40)
This is an interesting article from Crickey... well worth the read...

It's a shocking statistic that 25% of Seven's overall costs - for their whole operation - goes to the AFL to pay for those rights. Unbelievable.

It sounds very ambitious from 9, but how are they going to make money from grabbing all the major sports, when Foxtel, 7, and Optus are all losing rivers of money with those rights? They must be assuming they'll be able to talk down the value next time around for each.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
It’s a great idea that would work well. Create more depth and jeopardy in the competition. It would help to bring it back up to a world class comp, and more eyeballs and money flows in. Look at the NRL, it’s thriving with a similar set up. But to do so it requires NZR and RA to stop viewing Super Rugby as a mere national development tool. But archaic, backwards thinking will likely prevent this from ever happening.
French and Poms seem to have plenty of eyeballs on their comps with policy of all their players stay at home. I pretty confident just letting players go where ever isn't a golden bullet
 

drewprint

Bob Davidson (42)
I’m breaking my cardinal rule here of never engaging with Dan, but what the hell. Once and done. I’m not saying it’s a golden bullet, but it’s a good step towards a competition that finally takes itself seriously. Where the measure of its success isn’t in the amount of national stars it produces. Where it isn’t a fair accompli who the winner will be. Where fans can clearly identify each team and know that the next national talent can pop up anywhere. But I know I’m shouting into the void here. Because the current comp is going so well - more and more players leaving (yes, NZ was later to the party than us with the extra lure of the black jersey but its kicking in steadily now) as the money gap between us and overseas comps becomes ever more stark.
 
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