shanky
Darby Loudon (17)
This
I’d argue White was making choices at the line and not simply sniping every time.
There were a couple of really smart kicks in behind.
It’s his decision making that has improved while away. Good on him.
Bledisloe II @ Eden Park
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This
I’d argue White was making choices at the line and not simply sniping every time.
There were a couple of really smart kicks in behind.
It’s his decision making that has improved while away. Good on him.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
The cloak will be firmly reinstated at Eden Park. They could probably run out with knuckles in their pockets.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Don't know, do you think AAA was designated hard man for Wallabies? Looked to be attacking Cane's neck a couple of times look at 14 minute mark, we all know Cane is coming back from a broken neck, so looked a little like it was getting attacked!!
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Now after you all get upset I will tell you NO I don't think AAA or anyone was designated to attack anyone, anymore than I believe anyone from ABs were being sent out to try and injure Wallaby players, just trying to show you how stupid these posts are!
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Oh, I definitely think both teams had guys they were trying to target physically. Whether or not they were told to target them illegally is another matter but I certainly think both sides would have had a red circle around the opposition 7.
Brumbieman
Dick Tooth (41)
Wright, McReight and Wilson (QLD-er?) - do make sure you keep them locked down, please, along with Rodda, Blythe, Hockings and Mafi. I'm a Brumbies tragic but I do hate seeing QLD in the muck. When We're both strong, the golden jersey is strong.
NSW are the diversity hires.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
McReight is the promised one. Can't wait to see that kid progress.
dru
David Wilson (68)
No the posts aren't silly. Though I doubt it's the intentional illegal play that is the issue. As usual ABs were completely pushing the limits in the rucks. But the WBs play dealt with it and it increasingly led to frustration from the AB pack.
The only thing that is different to usual was the WB composure.
Using your terminology, in the past the AB pack has been "designated" to attack Pocock. Complaints about neck rolls on the weekend are at one level amuzing. (at a more serious level just as much an anathema from a gold jersey as a black one.) This time the very clear designated attack was on Hooper. And he left you looking foolish.
No I am not going to go back through the footage judging AAA. I'm quite confident that the aggressor level through this was quite clearly dominated by one team. They weren't wearing gold.
Tex
Greg Davis (50)
Rubbish. Noone suggested illegality in the intention. My read is that a younger player with technique gaps tried to play as an enforcer and fucked it up.
Plays 7 at the Reds but more of a Notta
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Don't worry dru, I not expecting anyone to go through test, as I didn't either and never bother, I just happened to turn tv over and replay was on just as AAA came in and did a bit of neck roll on Cane, and of course I don't think he did it on purpose, doubt whether they ever are, just read posts that suggest foul play, (and no none of them suggested bad technique or anything) and I pointing out how silly I think they are. See even reading your reply suggests that the ABs pushed limits at rucks etc, and that Wallabies didn't. I can assure you that no teams are different in their approach to game. And don't think it only some Wallaby supporters that are same, we have plenty of not the brightest posters too that can only see what the opposition do!! Unfortunately (and this is probably making me look just as bad) of all my mates both kiwi, Aussie, Welsh and SA who attend a lot of rugby and who all talk proper sensible stuff don't actually post on here or any rugby sites, they say tend to look at posts like these and just go why bother if that the level of discussion.
JRoss
Stan Wickham (3)
The AB's will be a very different animal to last week.
1: Discipline will be far better.
2: They'll have 15 men on the park! (personally, a win against the AB's who had 14 men for 46 mins feels somewhat hollow)
3: The loose 3 combo of Reid, Savea, Cane experiment will prosper having the full 15 men on the park.
4: Hansens 100th cap as Coach. (the AB's will deliver)
5: The 14 neck rolls tallied from last weeks Wallabies will be closely watched and penalized. Hansen will make sure the Refs are duly noted to act. (This was a major component at the breakdown lastweek)
1: Discipline will be far better.
2: They'll have 15 men on the park! (personally, a win against the AB's who had 14 men for 46 mins feels somewhat hollow)
3: The loose 3 combo of Reid, Savea, Cane experiment will prosper having the full 15 men on the park.
4: Hansens 100th cap as Coach. (the AB's will deliver)
5: The 14 neck rolls tallied from last weeks Wallabies will be closely watched and penalized. Hansen will make sure the Refs are duly noted to act. (This was a major component at the breakdown lastweek)
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
Well, we've seen evidence of one, but the Kiwi media said it so it must be true.
I'm guessing you're a Kiwi, we (as Wallabies supporters) are certainly not expecting a repeat of last week's scoreline and not taking it lightly.
Bring it on! Wallabies by 8.
Forcefield
Ken Catchpole (46)
46 minutes? Did we also cheat by adding another 5 minutes to the second half?
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
I saw both teams do a few neck rolls and was surprised they weren't penalised on the weekend. I am worried that the media attention from both sides will result in an OTT crack down on clean outs and we will see a card riddled test match. I think we will be all poorer for that outcome. I want to see 15 v 15 for the full match.
Agree. It remains a problem, and seems to be quite randomly adjudicated this year.
JRoss
Stan Wickham (3)
Indeed my error.
41 minutes is accurate, sorry for the mistake. Still, 41 minutes playing 14 Men is a huge advantage albeit the right call to red card. I'm sure this has been discussed here somewhere but that rule must change. It's plain stupid. Bin the Man for the game and subsequent judiciary review. 10-15 minutes reduced player then allow new Man to take the field to equate 15 a side.
It's grossly unfair for the reduced team as a whole, affected by one player's foul play. It's also somewhat of a hollow victory for the winning team. It mostly though, diminishes the spectacle from the spectator's point of view.
Also, I did not say anyone cheated. I pointed out that neck-rolls were present and not an illusionary or subjective view but one of reality. The blame falls squarely on the refs. The fact that this was allowed to go unpunished affected the breakdown greatly. Players in a general sense will push the rule book hard but this type of play at the 2015 WC was not tolerated and cards were issued. It's illegal due to it being extremely dangerous.
I challenge anyone here who disagrees with the level of NR's committed by the Wallabies to re-watch the game with objectivity, and all teams will have to be vigilant with gameplay at the coming WC.
It's a team game. I don't get the idea that it is grossly unfair that the team gets affected by one player's actions.
Is it grossly unfair when a player makes a mistake and it costs their team a try or the game?
I think you move into dangerous territory if you are deciding that trying to keep the game as even as possible for the fans is of more importance than the laws of the game.
High and dangerous tackles are reducing because the penalties for it are harsh. Look at the prevalence of lifting tackles in the game now compared to a few years ago. The zero tolerance policy has changed techniques. It works.