Bledisloe 2 2023 @ Dunedin 12:35PM Sat 5 Aug

[ACR]

McDermott got held up over the line from a turned down 3.

Yeah, and it's rough with the dropout now. Players need to make sure they don't get held up. Could and (and possibly should) have been a Wallabies win, small margins.

 

[SteveWA]

rubbish result, how much fucken advantage are the all blacks offered

Whatever it takes, apparently

 

[KOB1987]

Can anyone offer a meaningful explanation of why the scrum went to pieces after 10 or 15 minutes in the second half? About the time McReight went off, but I refuse to accept his replacement being the reason. Must have been something else, and earlier than Nongorr coming on too. Pone finished off the ground and in the air on his last couple of scrums before being replaced.

Fatigue. They are fitter than us

 

[molman]

Can anyone offer a meaningful explanation of why the scrum went to pieces after 10 or 15 minutes in the second half? About the time McReight went off, but I refuse to accept his replacement being the reason. Must have been something else, and earlier than Nongorr coming on too. Pone finished off the ground and in the air on his last couple of scrums before being replaced.

Didn't the AB's bring on some of their bench front row around then?

 

[rugbyAU]

So what team changes for next time?

 

[whitefalcon]

Tom Hooper has booked his ticket to RWC I reckon

Starting 6 for sure. Leota had a bit of a 'Mare when he came on too. At least in the lineout.

 

[KOB1987]

So what team changes for next time?

That will be v France with our likely RWC squad. Arnold did his core role OK for the first 10 minutes and then was invisible. He’d be my first change.

 

[The Phoenix]

Really impressed with Faessler. Not played for ages and called in at the last minute then played 70 odd minutes. Solid across the park.

 

[RugbyReg]

Didn't the AB's bring on some of their bench front row around then?

Pone injured. Surely.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Fatigue. They are fitter than us

Which I find unfathomable at this level. They are professional athletes who's jobs are to prepare for these kind of games. That includes being at peak physical condition.

 

[ACR]

Didn't the AB's bring on some of their bench front row around then?

Possibly helped, the AB's scrum is pretty strong atm.

 

[molman]

Pone injured. Surely.

That flip/roll on his neck didn't look good.

 

[griffins]

Again the whinging about the ref after a loss is just so pathetic.

 

[KOB1987]

Can anyone offer a meaningful explanation of why the scrum went to pieces after 10 or 15 minutes in the second half? About the time McReight went off, but I refuse to accept his replacement being the reason. Must have been something else, and earlier than Nongorr coming on too. Pone finished off the ground and in the air on his last couple of scrums before being replaced.

Not related to the scrum but taking McReight off had a noticeable detrimental effect at the breakdown.

 

[Wilson]

So what team changes for next time?

Leota drops out and there's a growing argument for Kerevi dropping to the bench with Foketi starting

 

[Doritos Day]

The pathway for Aus to win games is just too narrow. Basically have to be up two scores at half time and hope the bench hangs on because they're consistently less fit than the opposition. 10 mins either side of half time is regularly a disaster.

 

[ACR]

Which I find unfathomable at this level. They are professional athletes who's jobs are to prepare for these kind of games. That includes being at peak physical condition.

The AB's started playing a lot faster and as simple as it sounds, just bloody better. Momentum swings, penalties come and then you're working even harder on defense, fatigue and mistakes just naturally come.

 

[KOB1987]

Again the whinging about the ref after a loss is just so pathetic.

Not the ref per se, the amount of penalty advantage the all blacks were given which ultimately gave them 17 points

 

[Brumby Runner]

Fatigue. They are fitter than us

I think Slipper is part of the problem. His side went backwards in his first scrum. But is there any evidence that Will Skelton is effective at scrum time? He was pushing Pone when the TH side went to pieces. After that, Zane of course leaves a lot to be desired at scrum time but maybe he's not helped either by having Skelton behind him. It was the TH side that failed in the last scrum that gave the ABs the penalty for the win.

The final score nevertheless means nothing to me. The Wallabies were very competitive for 80 minutes. That is a huge improvement. The scrum is the main area of concern leading into the RWC.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Well at least the trend is in the right direction. Each game the team have played better. It's unlikely to be enough to do a great deal for the RWC but the medium term is looking more positive with some of these young blokes.