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Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2014

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Sideline Eye

Darby Loudon (17)
NSW I v QLD II (Thursday 3-7-14):

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SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
That's a little unfair - Nucifora (#9) converted all three tries, including a difficult one from half-way. I don't believe he missed any kicks, though Horan (#10) missed a penalty from in front while Nucifora was forced off with a blood bin.

I stand corrected on all points ... From the above pic, you are right Connor Watson was in nsw 1s

So kennewell played well til he left the field

Either way , thought the match was a good arm wrestle ... And the clipboards certainly have some good options ... Across everything from front row, to back row to inside backs and outside backs

Probably the only area maybe a bit light on, is in tall timber

What about that scots half back , strang ....where was he?
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
MATCH RESULTS – DAY 4
Division II Round Robin
National Indigenous (LMRDT) 50 (M Doolan (2) B Turnbull L Anau L Snowball N Tamwoy C Mansell N Barker tries M Doolan 5 con) bt Northern Territory 3 (J Lim pen goal)

South Australia 15 (W Marschallek R France tries J Astle con pen goal) bt VIC II 7 (K Salter try A Smylie con)

Division I POOL A
ACT 33 (S Ross (2) N Saunders L Simonsson B Leber tries H Tyson con J Fulivai 2 pen goals) bt Western Australia 25 (L Mario (2) C Uyen tries N Jooste 2 cons 2 pen goals)

NSW II 23 (T Laimani J McGregor tries S Renton 2 cons 3 pen goals) bt QLD I 21 (S Edwards (2) C Pritchard tries H Nucifora 3 cons)

Division I POOL B
VIC I 36 (G Semisi B Gray A Van Zyl R Leota J Lemalu S Tuipoluto tries B Gray 3 cons) bt Combined States 15 (J Bowditch H Rowe L Price tries)


NSW I 41(H Hutchison (2) G Porter (2) C Watson V Fifita tries H Goddard 4 cons pen goal) bt QLD II 10 (A Scot-Young try E Pilz con pen goal)

Source: http://austschools.rugbynet.com.au/
 

Getwithme

Cyril Towers (30)
Yep. There were claims of him playing SG Ball Loig with the Chooks during the summer period.

Rugby HQ just finished on Fox. I missed a bit at the start but no mention of the Schoolboys Champs in the part that I saw.

There was a good mention last week.

Wonder why Tim Horan didn't mention the finals on Saturday? He was pretty keen to promote the Championships last week.


It's because Alex's in 3/4th not in the winning playoff :)
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
Be interested to see how many qld kids make Aussie schoolboys on back of today's result ... From admittedly limited viewing reckon qld's 1, 8, 12 and 14 might be the goods, with the rest being well covered by good nsw options

I am sure that won't be the outcome ...but shame won't see a qld 1 v nsw 1

The scots duo of porter and Crichton are definites for Aussie schoolboys IMHO... And curious to know if widders lee has had any opportunity to push a claim for hooker spot?
 

James Day

Stan Wickham (3)
anyone bold enough to predict an aus schools team? for us blokes unable to make the trip to riverview to watch the games?
 

BIg Jake

Frank Nicholson (4)
The team is probably close to picked. The guys like Chrighton in champ current form pick themselves. Mcgregor NSW 11 would right now have to be under consideration and there are a couple of good tall boys in the NSW 11's then there are dark horses bolters like that incredibly fit and strong recently brought up Shadow Hayson who with limited play has shown glimpses he is back in to his top GPS form and the multi games Comp ahead need guys like that.The Joeys boys combo seem to be in favour.And quite a lot of the QLD boys are no slouches.We mere mortals not in the know can't even start to pick.
 

random2

Johnnie Wallace (23)
anyone bold enough to predict an aus schools team? for us blokes unable to make the trip to riverview to watch the games?

From what I've seen which mainly involves NSW 1 and 2, QLD 1 and ACT plus from what I've heard id say:

1. Gavin Luka (QLD 1)
2. Alex Mafi (QLD 1) OR Ed Craig (NSW 1)
3. Vuni Fifita (NSW 1)
4. Toby Rudolph (NSW 1)
5. ??? James Lough (NSW 2) has been a workhorse
6. Angus Crichton (NSW 1)
7. Jum Woodhill (NSW 2)
8. Harley Fox (QLD 1)

The 9/10 is wide open, at 10 Horan (QLD 1) and Jooste (WA) have looked good, the match up in the final between NSW 1s Goddard/O'Shea and NSW 2s Duffy/McGregor will have a huge impact on selections. Duffy has been the surprise of the tournament IMO, so quick to the breakdown and doing not a lot wrong, could be a smoky for Schools.

11. Simon Kennewell (NSW 2) OR Conor Watson (NSW 1)
12. Calvin Prichard (QLD 1)
13. Henry Hutchinson (NSW 1)
14. Sam Edwards (QLD 1)
15. Guy Porter (NSW 1)

Anyone who has seen more of WA, ACT, VIC, CS and QLD 2 feel free to make changes but from what I've seen these are the guys who deserve a spot.

Guy Porter is the player of the tournament so far

Nick Duffy the bolter for Schools
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
The aim of the Aust Schoolboys is to win against NZ.

To beat them, you need lads who can grunt out a victory against Barbarians and Fiji, then back up against NZ.

Knowing how Team Rehab works, I'd imagine that the Selectors would be looking for lads who can cover multiple positions rather than specialists. Reliable diesel engines not flashy dragster nitro burners.

A limitation/guidance keyboard selectors need to consider is that 2 complete front rows and 3 second rowers will be needed for each game. The touring squad will need to have more than 6 fatties and 3 giraffes in it for a three games in nine days tour.

The selectors will also be selecting kids who they feel can execute the Coaches game plan best. The unpredictable risk taker who does not follow the strategy but who has a good tournament in terms of points scored may not be wanted.

They will need a reliable place kicker, and a back up kicker, and someone who can hoof the pill downfield 50+ metres, and be able to do this into a "gentle" Wellington zephyr. It's not called Windy Wellington for nothing.

Hookers struggled with lineout accuracy on Day 1 (windy). Craig, Mafi et al need to spend some time in the nearest Wind Tunnel before hoppping onto the plane to NZ.

The "top" squad may not be revealed until the last game against NZ. They will probably run on an approximation of that against Fiji in the first game of the tour, but players will take some knocks in that game and some may end up being ruled out from the big Test.

I'd tip that they will announce a squad of 28-30 for the tour. Shadow players will have to keep fit, because there is a whole season of Brisbane GPS, 8 rounds of AAGPS, 5 rounds of CAS, 4 rounds of Sydney Colts and finals, and a few ISA rounds to go before departure. You can bet that Team Rehab selectors will tap a few on the shoulder before departure date.
 

random2

Johnnie Wallace (23)
1/2/3/13/15/as above
4 Hewatt
5 Finlay
6 Scott-Young
7 Anderson
8 Crighton
9 Goddard/Duffy
10 O'Shea/Horan
11 Fittock
12 Yeomans/Lough
14 Edwards? not sure of Watson

I think Rudolph has been really strong as has Hewatt apparently. Massive fan of Woodhill but Anderson is a fair choice. Crichton certainty. I rate Prichard over Lough but have heard good things about Yeomans aswell, Fittock good aswell.

Fair changes
 

James Day

Stan Wickham (3)
The aim of the Aust Schoolboys is to win against NZ.

To beat them, you need lads who can grunt out a victory against Barbarians and Fiji, then back up against NZ.

Knowing how Team Rehab works, I'd imagine that the Selectors would be looking for lads who can cover multiple positions rather than specialists. Reliable diesel engines not flashy dragster nitro burners.

A limitation/guidance keyboard selectors need to consider is that 2 complete front rows and 3 second rowers will be needed for each game. The touring squad will need to have more than 6 fatties and 3 giraffes in it for a three games in nine days tour.

The selectors will also be selecting kids who they feel can execute the Coaches game plan best. The unpredictable risk taker who does not follow the strategy but who has a good tournament in terms of points scored may not be wanted.

They will need a reliable place kicker, and a back up kicker, and someone who can hoof the pill downfield 50+ metres, and be able to do this into a "gentle" Wellington zephyr. It's not called Windy Wellington for nothing.

Hookers struggled with lineout accuracy on Day 1 (windy). Craig, Mafi et al need to spend some time in the nearest Wind Tunnel before hoppping onto the plane to NZ.

The "top" squad may not be revealed until the last game against NZ. They will probably run on an approximation of that against Fiji in the first game of the tour, but players will take some knocks in that game and some may end up being ruled out from the big Test.

I'd tip that they will announce a squad of 28-30 for the tour. Shadow players will have to keep fit, because there is a whole season of Brisbane GPS, 8 rounds of AAGPS, 5 rounds of CAS, 4 rounds of Sydney Colts and finals, and a few ISA rounds to go before departure. You can bet that Team Rehab selectors will tap a few on the shoulder before departure date.

based on what ive heard, if you want a diesel engine who runs all day then Haysons your man, although this is only from what ive seen with his GPS performance, not sure if his done enough at the national carnival
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
I think Rudolph has been really strong as has Hewatt apparently. Massive fan of Woodhill but Anderson is a fair choice. Crichton certainty. I rate Prichard over Lough but have heard good things about Yeomans aswell, Fittock good aswell.

Fair changes


You had me there for a minute @random2. Here's me thinking you were pushing for E Pritchard (#2 for NSW II) to be selected for a Loose Forward position over J Lough (#8 for NSW II), before I realised that it was C Pritchard (#12 for Q1) over L Lough (#12 for N1) that you were referring to.

#12 Pritchard seemed to be the goods in the earlier encounters, think of a Tepai Moeroa that could pass, but he was apparently injured yesterday, or shut down by Kennewell and the N2 loose forwards, or both.
 

random2

Johnnie Wallace (23)
You had me there for a minute @random2. Here's me thinking you were pushing for E Pritchard (#2 for NSW II) to be selected for a Loose Forward position over J Lough (#8 for NSW II), before I realised that it was C Pritchard (#12 for Q1) over L Lough (#12 for N1) that you were referring to.

#12 Pritchard seemed to be the goods in the earlier encounters, think of a Tepai Moeroa that could pass, but he was apparently injured yesterday, or shut down by Kennewell and the N2 loose forwards, or both.

Sorry about that ! Agree with the Tepai comparison, the try he scored yesterday was similar to a few scored at Stanmore last year with numerous defenders bumped out of the way. He did pick up an injury but as said previously the tour isn't until November although if he doesn't play tomorrow that could have an impact
 
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