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Johnnie Wallace (23)
Want to put your Schools team up Lee ?
Australian Schoolboys & National Championships 2012
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Want to put your Schools team up Lee ?
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
NSW I 22 Qld II 8
Like the Qld Is in the earlier game NSW took the foot off the throat after oranges, and Qld was able to get a 5-5 scoreline in the 2nd half with the wind at their backs.
I wasn't impressed by the NSW counter rucking, or attempts thereof, and on attack they didn't have enough players bending the defensive line around the rucks. Methinks they will do a few more pick and goes, and who knows - a maul or two - come Saturday.
• Queensland had trouble in the lineout and 3 times took the throw at the top, only to have the ball carried forward by a NSW player at the bottom. Although it wasn't a huge scoreline against them there weren't too many stand out Qld players in the match, and any good they did was from team play.
They seemed to screw the scrum around a lot and it was counter-productive. Unlike senior rugby, in U/19 rugby, a wheeled scrum did not generate a turnover which meant resets; so their catch-up time got eroded. Maybe the NSW THP was bullied back, who knows?
• NSW was guilty of throwing too many passes to players with the wrong jerseys on and should have gone to ground a few times instead - or at least had a look first. They also over-did the inside pass and run into traffic with 12. Moeroa and 13. Stewart, and the first-named dropped most of them anyway. That wasn't his only boo boo of the day either: a Sonny Bill Williams pass was more like one from Serena.
• The first NSW try illustrated the ability of two of NSW's best players this week: McIntyre ran into space and passed wide at full gallop to Kellaway who hared along touch and dished it in to a supporting player for a score. Simple but deadly. I looked at the number of the try scorer and it was the THP O'Connor !! He played well around the park and had his best game of the week.
Unlike many players at the tournament who are guns for their schools, these two blokes look like big match players. McIntyre has proved himself by coming off the bench to win a game against NZ Schools as a flyhalf, but now I think he is a better fullback. Also, unlike too many of the guns this week, they don't die with the ball, but facilitate the work of others with the good pass.
• 4. Rorke did some good hard things including getting over the gain line. He probably has the enforcer lock position for Oz, and his NSW Ones locking partners Manukeu and Lloyd plus the 3 Queenslanders will probably fight it out for the other 2nd row spots in the two teams.
• 6. Dempsey picked up his game in this match but he spoilt a chance after one of his long runs, with a bad pass. 7. Johnson has grown on me since the rep season started though it's probably a matter of my poor observation earlier than ordinary play from him.
• 8. I think that Whitely has done enough. He looked like a schoolboy Zinzan sometimes in the last 2 games, well, take that with a grain of salt, and I expect him to be picked to start for Oz. But since I am the world's worst selector, he probably won't be.
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Like the Qld Is in the earlier game NSW took the foot off the throat after oranges, and Qld was able to get a 5-5 scoreline in the 2nd half with the wind at their backs.
I wasn't impressed by the NSW counter rucking, or attempts thereof, and on attack they didn't have enough players bending the defensive line around the rucks. Methinks they will do a few more pick and goes, and who knows - a maul or two - come Saturday.
• Queensland had trouble in the lineout and 3 times took the throw at the top, only to have the ball carried forward by a NSW player at the bottom. Although it wasn't a huge scoreline against them there weren't too many stand out Qld players in the match, and any good they did was from team play.
They seemed to screw the scrum around a lot and it was counter-productive. Unlike senior rugby, in U/19 rugby, a wheeled scrum did not generate a turnover which meant resets; so their catch-up time got eroded. Maybe the NSW THP was bullied back, who knows?
• NSW was guilty of throwing too many passes to players with the wrong jerseys on and should have gone to ground a few times instead - or at least had a look first. They also over-did the inside pass and run into traffic with 12. Moeroa and 13. Stewart, and the first-named dropped most of them anyway. That wasn't his only boo boo of the day either: a Sonny Bill Williams pass was more like one from Serena.
• The first NSW try illustrated the ability of two of NSW's best players this week: McIntyre ran into space and passed wide at full gallop to Kellaway who hared along touch and dished it in to a supporting player for a score. Simple but deadly. I looked at the number of the try scorer and it was the THP O'Connor !! He played well around the park and had his best game of the week.
Unlike many players at the tournament who are guns for their schools, these two blokes look like big match players. McIntyre has proved himself by coming off the bench to win a game against NZ Schools as a flyhalf, but now I think he is a better fullback. Also, unlike too many of the guns this week, they don't die with the ball, but facilitate the work of others with the good pass.
• 4. Rorke did some good hard things including getting over the gain line. He probably has the enforcer lock position for Oz, and his NSW Ones locking partners Manukeu and Lloyd plus the 3 Queenslanders will probably fight it out for the other 2nd row spots in the two teams.
• 6. Dempsey picked up his game in this match but he spoilt a chance after one of his long runs, with a bad pass. 7. Johnson has grown on me since the rep season started though it's probably a matter of my poor observation earlier than ordinary play from him.
• 8. I think that Whitely has done enough. He looked like a schoolboy Zinzan sometimes in the last 2 games, well, take that with a grain of salt, and I expect him to be picked to start for Oz. But since I am the world's worst selector, he probably won't be.
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Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
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Nev Cottrell (35)
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Frank Nicholson (4)
I was, and I agree with Tomasi's observations. O'Connor also struggled against the Victorian boys at scrum time. Your use of LG's words confirms nothing about the issue at hand, which is his difficulty with the primary function of a No3, holding up a scrum. If he was playing No6 then how he plays around the park would have more significance.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Lee,
That is one that Bruce Ross would be proud of. Well worth the wait. Made my day.
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Chris McKivat (8)
Can anyone make any reports about Pat Toeta, Vic. 10? Last time I saw him play in the 16's, I could see a correlation between his attributes and that of Ben Tapuai a few years ago, another youngster who I was fortunate to coach at 15/16 yrs old. Highly elusive ball playing fly-halves with deceptive pace off the mark, some good characteristics to have, although Taps continues to develop into something special in the midfield. I wonder how Toeta is going and whether he has a chance to impress the selectors like he impressed me last year.
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
CTPE & LG........suggest you meet him in centre field, on halfway line at half time of the main game......more witnesses.
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Bill McLean (32)
Keep DigressingI can sit there all day and watch that voluptuous women pass by me!
I have said to much!
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Bill McLean (32)
and when you both do, hit Tomasi with the following:
Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva
Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva
Le Manu Samoa lenei ua ou sau
Leai se isi Manu o le atulaulau
Ua ou sau nei ma le mea atoa
Ma lo'u malosi ua atoatoa
Ia e faatafa ma e sósó ese
Leaga o lenei Manu e uiga ese
Le Manu Samoa! Le Manu Samoa!
Le Manu Samoa e o mai i Samoa!
Hi!
And if he is still standing there, and looks even more upset, RUN, and FAST! Trust me he wont catch you, after all he is a 41 year old ex-prop with an injury!
cheers boys! 
whatever
Darby Loudon (17)
I love it; go Tomasi (mongrel up)
Hey man, "41 years young at the moment"; it that Islander years or oz years.
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Tomorrow is a huge day for a lot of aspiring young Aussie rugby players.
Some will be rewarded with the honour of representing their country, yet many others will feel disappointed to miss out.
Do your school, team mates, family and friends proud, leave it all on the field and nothing in the tank.
Good luck to all players and officials, hope luck favours the brave and that injuries aren't a factor.
And somehow, amongst all the madness and mayhem, make sure you enjoy yourselves!!!
Some will be rewarded with the honour of representing their country, yet many others will feel disappointed to miss out.
Do your school, team mates, family and friends proud, leave it all on the field and nothing in the tank.
Good luck to all players and officials, hope luck favours the brave and that injuries aren't a factor.
And somehow, amongst all the madness and mayhem, make sure you enjoy yourselves!!!
CTPE
Nev Cottrell (35)
and when you both do, hit Tomasi with the following:
Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva
Le Manu Samoa e, ia manú le fai o le faiva
Le Manu Samoa lenei ua ou sau
Leai se isi Manu o le atulaulau
Ua ou sau nei ma le mea atoa
Ma lo'u malosi ua atoatoa
Ia e faatafa ma e sósó ese
Leaga o lenei Manu e uiga ese
Le Manu Samoa! Le Manu Samoa!
Le Manu Samoa e o mai i Samoa!
Hi!
And if he is still standing there, and looks even more upset, RUN, and FAST! Trust me he wont catch you, after all he is a 41 year old ex-prop with an injury!
Yes but he might catch a much older ex-prop who has difficulty even contemplating using the words RUN and FAST in the same phrase!. I think I'll just pay some kids to deliver hand written notes of my observations to him and see where that gets me!
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Bill McLean (32)
It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Newbie, you're new to this and your inexperience could cost someone their life.
So your theory is, 'dont shoot the messenger'!
Pay the kid well
CTPE needs to use a lot of kids, not one kid, as one kid will be too easy to follow back to him.
Use lots of kids, responses come back in text not in person, and he should be safe.
Don't forget to use your program to cover your lips while speaking, like NFL coaches.
Use a 3rd person off site to pay the kids in cash.
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elcapitano
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Declan O’Donohoe is pure class, while he may not be the most naturally gifted player in oz it should be well recognized that he is the hardest working and most determined on the football pitch. i would be surprised to see him left out of the oz side, the selectors must remember that hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard and noone is showing more will at the moment than O'Donowho
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Brilliant strategy IIWII - I had considered using more than one kid but the rest of the advice is just sensational.
Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
Huge it was close. I honestly think that a couple of changes should or shouldn't have been made. (The coaches I think were made of that instead of listening to an old sage).
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