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Australian Rugby / RA

WoodysRFC

Ted Fahey (11)
Was just using him as an example of the unlikelihood of capturing players who are about to be eligible for other nations.
Good example, however, if he is good enough, and confident he can hold the 10 Jersey, wouldn't representing Aus whilst maintaining his lucrative Japan contract be a win/win. If its a cap and scrap, sure, then I see where you're coming from.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
really hoping that RA takes at least half of that 50 mil and invests it wisely in some alternate income streams....you'd like to think by the time the RWC is over RA could be generating $8m to $10 mil in passive income each year through investments giving the game a bit of a safety net.
 

cyclopath

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
really hoping that RA takes at least half of that 50 mil and invests it wisely in some alternate income streams....you'd like to think by the time the RWC is over RA could be generating $8m to $10 mil in passive income each year through investments giving the game a bit of a safety net.
If only people in RA had experience in high level finance, or knew people that do...
 

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
The revenue split isn’t 50/50, it’s more like 75/25, but this is variable based on a number of things. RA take matchday income, and a there is a profit share JV for sponsorship, licensing and broadcast rights.

I believe the $250million figure is discussing economic value, not revenue.

‘Surplus’ isn’t normally referenced in the way you’ve described, you report a surplus and then pay off existing liabilities. Which is why reporting a surplus of $50million and then stating this will pay off existing debt of $64million, is unusual
I agree, which is why I made assumptions based on the other things that were reported in the media. And I know what a surplus normally is but I figured perhaps a sports journalist may not. Anyway, it's obviously a good result but it's all a bit confusing so I'm happy to wait for the annual reports!
 

Adam84

John Eales (66)
I agree, which is why I made assumptions based on the other things that were reported in the media. And I know what a surplus normally is but I figured perhaps a sports journalist may not. Anyway, it's obviously a good result but it's all a bit confusing so I'm happy to wait for the annual reports!
Yeah agreed, reports will be interesting but I’m sure they’ll announce something sooner just as a positive piece of PR
 

LeCheese

Geoff Shaw (53)
If only people in RA had experience in high level finance, or knew people that do...
On that note - appointing Waugh et al. was obviously pretty heavily criticised at the time, but it's seeming like a bit of a masterstroke. Although, regardless of who came in, it would've been pretty hard to fuck up with money makers like a Lions Tour and WC.
 

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Greedy greedy little piggies
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Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Greedy greedy little piggies
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This is humourous for many, many reasons. Not least because Australia is one of if not the T1 union in the most trouble financially and trajectory wise.

Also funny is how I missed that any of those grim Isles have invested heavily in a tourism industry that has: multiple stadia that can take 80k+ people, multiple cities worth visiting and spending big money, a large wealthy population that pay for premium events and finally Sydney isn't Cardiff nor Melbourne is Glasgow.

Also, lol Wales probably had the best RWC27 preparation out of any nation with no players missing.

Greedy fuckers get woe is me after Australia has one positive moment, tell ya story walking mate.
 

Major Tom

Arch Winning (36)
They would have made a lot of money as well.
Do they not make lots of money through the 6N every single year?
Wales the least disrupted by the lions anyways.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I just don't see how rugby will be able to buck the inevitable trend that soccer and basketball have where the exact thing you mention is happening with the national teams.

I don't think that is the case there though. Most players who play for the Socceroos or Boomers either do start out in the A League or NBL or are playing in a clearly higher level competition than the Australian competitions from their first professional games.

I don't think we should starting picking James Ramm and Harry Hockings over Dylan Pietsch and Nick Frost because we're keen to see how Ramm and Hockings are at that level to work out where they stand in the pecking order.

You could pick James Ramm for an EOYT test because you've got so many injuries that your alternative is calling up Triston Reilly. I'd be fine with that.
 

PhilClinton

Mark Ella (57)
I don't think that is the case there though. Most players who play for the Socceroos or Boomers either do start out in the A League or NBL or are playing in a clearly higher level competition than the Australian competitions from their first professional games.

Sorry the above is more my point though around our best players being offshore similar to the Boomers and Socceroos.

At some stage, I think it is inevitable that the Australian rugby competition isn't viewed as the highest level and having our players going offshore is going to be best for their development. There are many here who probably argue that already isn't the highest level and the form that Skelton brought to our Wallabies team highlights how good some of the European competitions are.

I see the agreement to scrap the Giteau Law as potentially the first proper admission by RA that Super Rugby is never going to regain top tier sport status in Australia as the NRL and AFL are simply too many miles ahead (maybe even some feeling in the organisation that R360 could be a proper disruptor).

Combine that with the 're-launch' of Super Rugby AU this year and I am getting the feeling that RA are moving towards a very Wallabies centric model where the regional teams are going to be fully centralised, we walk away from SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) and NZRU and there is a huge focus on the Wallabies being successful above all else.
 

noscrumnolife

Darby Loudon (17)
I am getting the feeling that RA are moving towards a very Wallabies centric model where the regional teams are going to be fully centralised, we walk away from SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) (Super Rugby Pacific) and NZRU and there is a huge focus on the Wallabies being successful above all else.
Correct Phil, and in my opinion the way we should have been moving for a little while now. NZRU have to be one of the worst partners going, the small minded protectionist wankers can get to fuck.

At the end of the day, the Wallabies is where our juice as a game is - from a revenue perspective, a marketing persoective, and a retention/attraction point. The ability to play on the global stage is our one USP that AFL can’t replicate, and NRL won’t be able to, despite PVLs wrinky-dink efforts. Protect it above all else and we will be ok.

there will always be domestic footy for the diehards, the last decade has taught us that if nothing else.
 

Omar Comin'

Peter Fenwicke (45)
I see the agreement to scrap the Giteau Law as potentially the first proper admission by RA that Super Rugby is never going to regain top tier sport status in Australia as the NRL and AFL are simply too many miles ahead (maybe even some feeling in the organisation that R360 could be a proper disruptor).

Combine that with the 're-launch' of Super Rugby AU this year and I am getting the feeling that RA are moving towards a very Wallabies centric model where the regional teams are going to be fully centralised, we walk away from SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) (Super Rugby Pacific) and NZRU and there is a huge focus on the Wallabies being successful above all else.

I think there's a pretty high chance of this too, but don't discount the possibility that they could keep contracting the number of professional teams so they can continue to hang onto most of the top players domestically.
 

Upthemaroon!

Chris McKivat (8)
I think there's a pretty high chance of this too, but don't discount the possibility that they could keep contracting the number of professional teams so they can continue to hang onto most of the top players domestically.
Any chance of RA and the NRL ever coming to a certain agreement of shared player pools? Probably not, but I can see PVL licking his lips at those international dollars.
 

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Any chance of RA and the NRL ever coming to a certain agreement of shared player pools? Probably not, but I can see PVL licking his lips at those international dollars.
It's in PVL's best interests to completely squash Union and ensure no eyeballs whatsoever come our way. If we had some sharing arrangement, effectively becoming the international arm of the NRL, or even if we had two or three SOO stars for a RWC, he'd be gifting us millions of viewers and tying his own noose.

The last thing he wants is a competitive Wallabies and a reason for NRL fans to watch them.
 
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