Coup leader can't understand why new employee hesitant to work with the people who just murdered their boss.
Australian Rugby / RA
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Coup leader can't understand why new employee hesitant to work with the people who just murdered their boss.
hoggy
Nev Cottrell (35)
I'm sorry, but i thought he made a bloody lot of sense in that article.
gel
Ken Catchpole (46)
Maybe they can't be fucked discussing things with people that are completely and utterly illogical, and whose only way to discuss things is to threaten.
sunnyboys
Bob Loudon (25)
Re Bob Dwyer. I get the sentiment. But what I think people forget is that pro rugby has been funded by the same model since the beginning of professionalism - same comps - same broadcaster
Breaking away from that model is very risky
Reigning CEOs aren’t normally up for taking those types of risks
Outsiders with no responsibility can easily entertain taking such risks.
No one has yet articulated a way forward that results in the changes many want to see without sending the game broke or into semi professionalism which then leaves it exposed to NRL/AFL dominance of young players etc
Breaking away from that model is very risky
Reigning CEOs aren’t normally up for taking those types of risks
Outsiders with no responsibility can easily entertain taking such risks.
No one has yet articulated a way forward that results in the changes many want to see without sending the game broke or into semi professionalism which then leaves it exposed to NRL/AFL dominance of young players etc
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
The group that appears to be making a play for power, their greatest flaw isn’t their credentials or experience, it’s been their inability to display that they can separate their biases aside from what’s in the interest of all rugby fans in Australia.
They need to show they are willing to make sacrifices in areas of the game they love to improve the experience of someone else that is completely separated from the parties they are attached to. The fear is that subbies experience won’t change, Victoria and Western Australia will be cut aside. Country investment will become tokenism and the ACT will be left to feed off the scraps. If they can vocally answer how they want to see these areas of the game thrive then they will have more support, it will also make them accountable if they did come into power.
If they can show they are wanting to represent everyone then they will be in a better position to gain support. Currently Castle appears to be more likely to work for everyone than these guys are. If that’s the truth who knows?
They need to show they are willing to make sacrifices in areas of the game they love to improve the experience of someone else that is completely separated from the parties they are attached to. The fear is that subbies experience won’t change, Victoria and Western Australia will be cut aside. Country investment will become tokenism and the ACT will be left to feed off the scraps. If they can vocally answer how they want to see these areas of the game thrive then they will have more support, it will also make them accountable if they did come into power.
If they can show they are wanting to represent everyone then they will be in a better position to gain support. Currently Castle appears to be more likely to work for everyone than these guys are. If that’s the truth who knows?
that's a comment of convenience. Having watched a bunch of old games - Kearns was a sensational hooker. Best Wallaby 2 I've seen.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Yep, certainly one of the premier international front rowers of the 1990's.........
There's two things that a lot of these outspoken critics have in common - they were top players/coaches in their day, but their views on how the game should be run today is long out of touch with modern times, and they've been tarnishing their legacies, causing more harm than good trying to tear up the sport for their own outdated agendas.........
I don't really need to click on another article by Dwyer, Papworth, NFJ, Alan Jones and the like to know what they're going to say, because they've been rehashing the same garbage for decades. [/rant]
Well, at least the number of negative articles from Fox Sports should decrease. None of the people who wrote them are still employed.
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
Honestly wasn't a comment of convenience. If it was, say, a David Wilson I'd be saying 'champion player, woeful commentator'.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Kearns was certainly a 'champion player' though............
I mean, two time World Cup champion and certainly one of the top hookers in world rugby during his day.
He just shouldn't commentate, or be the CEO for a major sporting body.
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
S Moore wasn't too shabby
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Oh for fucks sake!
Tom Lawton is a legend.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
He was behind Foley and Paul in 1999
Froggy
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
IMO Kearns was the best Australian hooker I've seen, and I go back to Peter Johnson. He also captained the Wallabies for 10 tests, and played in a WC winning side.
He is a very second rate commentator and one of the last people I would want as CEO of RA. It is certainly possible to have both those opinions, you don't have to trash the guy's legacy as a player to not want him anywhere near the running of the game.
Farr-Jones is similar. I would rate him number three in the Australian scrum halves I've seen (behind Catchpole and Hipwell) and number two captain (behind Eales). Having said that, I think a lot of his recent contribution to the game, both in terms of the Folau affair and now, have been extremely negative.
He is a very second rate commentator and one of the last people I would want as CEO of RA. It is certainly possible to have both those opinions, you don't have to trash the guy's legacy as a player to not want him anywhere near the running of the game.
Farr-Jones is similar. I would rate him number three in the Australian scrum halves I've seen (behind Catchpole and Hipwell) and number two captain (behind Eales). Having said that, I think a lot of his recent contribution to the game, both in terms of the Folau affair and now, have been extremely negative.
hoggy
Nev Cottrell (35)
I'm just curious what part of what Dwyer say's do you not agree with.