John S
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Australian Rugby shrinking to greatness again
Australian Rugby / RA
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Australian Rugby shrinking to greatness again
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Not necessarily shrinking. More operating in the realms of reality. Not that I'm actually advocating to cut the Rebels. But I think we would be more successful if we had stayed at just the 3 while building the necessary pieces below before we pushed for a 4th and then 5th franchise.
In hindsight I think Super Rugby would have been stronger if it had remained a 12 team competition instead expanding its schedule to a full 22 game season. I think we could have set up academies in both Perth and Melbourne and had them either compete in the Shute/QPR or in a NRC/Academies league set up below Super Rugby as a way of developing and fostering talent feeding further up the chain.
And if we were to look to go to 3 in Super Rugby I would only support it if 1)our cut team is headed for GRR 2)it involves the competition going to 12 teams and 3)alongside that the scheduled involves a double round robin format.
From Twitter: "Nathan Sharpe, Pat Howard and Bo Hanson to form panel for wide-ranging review of 2019 Wallabies season. Will interview all players and staff to form recommendations for 2020 and beyond.
Coaching process to be conducted separately, appointment by end of year."
Coaching process to be conducted separately, appointment by end of year."
John S
Peter Fenwicke (45)
It just feels like if it goes down this path that loads more supporters will leave the bandwagon, regardless of the process
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Correct
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Pat Howard ?!?
I guess if you're looking for someone who knows what institutional high performance failure looks like.......
interestingly many high profile cricket identities, players and otherwise, credit Pat and his strategies as helping with the Ashes success.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
I'm sure he played a significant role. Kind of missing the elephant in the room there though Reg
molman
Jim Lenehan (48)
There a source for that Reg? as I thought there was equally a bunch of people who were critical of Howards tenure and it's pretty apparent some cultural issues existed.
Me personally I have no basis to judge his suitability, but it is an interesting one even if just for the optics of the appointment.
dru
David Wilson (68)
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
Come again don’t know any high profile cricket personality has anything positive to say about him. Would like to see links to articles as I am calling bullshit on this statement. Happy to be proven wrong if you can provide a link.
Jobs for the boys continues, hope he is not being paid as I am with Stuart McGill.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/cou...a/news-story/6714a6bb8cb0914823238f4c021b4c08
Number 7
Darby Loudon (17)
Here you go. Quotes from Tim Paine and Langer:
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/per...uthampton-trial-game-ashes-england/2019-07-22
And Aaron Finch:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...e/news-story/5d0fdb55a70a49e05cb1f4dd06a0111d
The main criticisms related to Howard enforcing work load management particularly on fast bowlers as well as specialist players for different types of cricket. McGill, Warne and Chappell were fairly strong in their criticism of Howards influence on team selections based on skills and workload. Ultimately it seemed like a philosophical difference between old school and new school on what the right workload was for bowlers and who had the say on team selection.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
I just don't agree with this proposition. Assuming you mean more successful at Wallaby level?, or just at Super level?
In either case, three Super teams would mean a loss of many more players to overseas. They would include current Wallabies (as we lose them now with four teams, reducing to three would just exacerbate that problem), Super experienced players who can't find a spot in the three remaining teams and potential Super/test level players. Imagine for a moment who would have to go from the Reds if Isi Naisarani were to be absorbed into the Reds because the Rebels no longer exist.
And it wouldn't happen that if the Rebels joined GRR that the loss of top line players would be avoided. The Force lost most of their best players when folded. and those who remained either were not good enough for higher honours or were deliberately ignored by RA and the Wallabies.
There is no successful way of shrinking to greatness.
Aurelius
Ted Thorn (20)
So, the coach, the test captain and the limited-overs captain?
I'm not saying that they're being insincere, but you'd hardly expect the three most senior CA employees in the playing/coaching ranks to publicly bag a fellow high-profile CA appointee. Kind of like when a bumbling government minister steps down to "spend more time with the family" and none of his colleagues will have a bad word said about him.
At any rate, if RA really care about making this review truly independent then they might want to think about bringing in people from outside (by which I mean, not necessarily Australians). It would be interesting to get a perspective from Brits or New Zealanders as to how well the Wallabies are run.
Well they are high profile cricket identities as I said. Sorry it doesn't fit with your perspective of the world.
Belinda CLark too says:
Belinda CLark too says:
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Ken Catchpole (46)
And when we followed his work load philosophy, how did we go?