Force Japanese Rugby to pay for some of it. At least try get something out of this mess.
And if they rescind their offer to Jones and he decides he's staying with Rugby Australia after all?
Force Japanese Rugby to pay for some of it. At least try get something out of this mess.
Do you think he would do that though? His life will be made hell over here.And if they rescind their offer to Jones and he decides he's staying with Rugby Australia after all?
Don't France, New Zealand, South Africa and England all have domestic only competitions? In the case of England and France these are used to qualify for composite international comps.You guys have absolutely nothing. On one hand you guys want to get rid of NZ, the closest international playing partner you have, but on the other hand, you still want your pro teams playing internationally?
Before pointing out that having your pro teams play internationally is exactly what Super Rugby is, who will you play? Just the teams you’re confident of beating? Or is it your contention that the current Australian Super sides just need to play each other more - in fact, spread the talent out to make more teams to play against- that will make your teams better contenders for some kind of cross-over competition against Super Rugby Aotearoa teams?
It is forever being trotted out that Super Rugby is terrible for Australia, NZ are only in it for themselves (as if Rugby Australia has only ever had the greater good of rugby at heart LOL) and the path forward includes the absolute need to dump Aotearoa.
For what? This 3rd rate domestic comp that is apparently so appealing and high quality that broadcasters will be falling over each other trying to rain money on rugby?
You can’t name one country in the Top 5 rugby nations who do this and you cannot point to any notable rugby expert who can provide a plan of shrinking rugby to a mainly domestic game and still producing a Wallaby side that is a realistic RWC contender.
Don't France, South Africa and England all have domestic competitions? These are used to qualify for composite international comps.
I brought this up last time Bullrush went on a rant about how closed minded we all are and I never got a reply.... doesn't fit his story.Don't France, New Zealand, South Africa and England all have domestic only competitions? These are used to qualify for composite international comps.
Advocates for a domestic comp aren't saying it'll immediately be bigger or better than Super Rugby or any of other competition. But, to me at least, it seems like a necessary foundation
Yeah since edited it.Don't forget New Zealand...
All good structures are built off strong foundations.
NPC for NZ, Currie Cup for SA.
This is where we need to focus. A big hurdle is QRU and NSWRU with their Shute Shield and Hospital Cup.
Things need to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
Yes but the NRC has been degraded by NZRU over a long period of time. As a competition it has never been allowed to adapt to market conditions.You do know that the NPC is becoming less and less important to NZ pro rugby with each passing year? from nz contacts i've heard it is seen as a very very expensive development program which isnt delivering the players it once did. school to academies to under age national teams and onto super is the more likely pathway nowadays.
Make them take McLennan as part of any dealForce Japanese Rugby to pay for some of it. At least try get something out of this mess.
Totally agree. I'd say that the Governance model in NZ where the Provincial Unions have more clout on the NZR board is the only thing keeping the comp at the semi-pro level it is. NZR and others on the board have moved on from the comp but breaking up is proving hard to do.Yes but the NRC has been degraded by NZRU over a long period of time. As a competition it has never been allowed to adapt to market conditions.
It was replaced in the market place by Super Rugby, it may be very expensive but it exists under the conditions dictated to it, it has not been allowed to adapt.
Moving to age teams and academies may be the future, but blaming the NPC is like owning a car for 20 years and not servicing it, and then complaining it no longer runs well.
Only the other day Israel Dagg stated he feared for the future of the game in NZ as it is losing support in the country.
What a load of bullshit, you have a problem with something I said in a different conversation, and you now taking a shot at anything I say. Hence the cool story bro.Bullshit. I wrote a genuine post making reference to rugby experts and the needs they see in rugby - players including keeping 5 Australian teams.
The hatred for anything NZ is so strong that the reply was
‘Cool story bro…’
So please don’t give me this bullshit about ‘genuine discussion.’
If you want genuine, show me which of the top countries have their professional teams play only domestically? Point me in the direction of the rugby experts who say this is the best way to make Australian rugby better.
Worth adding that the self interest is fine from a Kiwi perspective - we are just free to ignore it.Cool story bro, not like all is rosey over in NZ, your heading home this weekend.
What a load of bullshit, you have a problem with something I said in a different conversation, and you now taking a shot at anything I say. Hence the cool story bro.
You want us to drop teams, we dont want that... you just point to other people who are wrong as well. The only reason you want us to continue in super rugby, is because if we left NZ, you be fucked playing your 5 - 6 team comp with nowhere to grow, and you would end up in a hole.. Nothing to do with wanting a strong Wallabies.
Its the same argument all Kiwi's make, and it's all in self interest.
You know that's a really good idea etc, and I truly believe it has the basics that you want.All good structures are built off strong foundations.
NPC for NZ, Currie Cup for SA.
This is where we need to focus. A big hurdle is QRU and NSWRU with their Shute Shield and Hospital Cup.
Things need to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
Can't you screenshot it? I refuse to sign into X to see tweets.
Can't you screenshot it? I refuse to sign into X to see tweets.
Great piece from
@iainpayten
… there is a lot going on. Who would have thought?
Eddie Jones’ future as Wallabies coach up in the air.
All eyes on Rugby Australia.
If they ask JRFU, they will get the answer they don’t want to hear.