Australian Rugby / RA

[HooperPocockSmith]

Just hope the Japanese pay out enough to fund one more raid of League players.

Chips in for Cleary. Let's see what happens lol

 

[Tex]

I'd be happy to never see Jones near the Wallabies again but regardless, if reports are true and he's soon to be off to Japan, I reckon it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport in generations.

Just tawdry behaviour from a charlatan whose priority was always his own pocket, but apparently not his reputation.

 

[Tomthumb]

I reckon it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport in generations.

How? He's not an idiot, he knows no one wants him there

 

[Tex]

How? He's not an idiot, he knows no one wants him there

Maaaaaate ya don't know what you're talking about maaaaaaaaate.

Nah, if he was interviewing before the fucking world cup began, as has been reported, it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport.

The hatred towards him is a product of:
- selection
- performance
- interviewing with another employer nine months after stepping into a five year contract.

 

[Dctarget]

Maaaaaate ya don't know what you're talking about maaaaaaaaate.

Nah, if he was interviewing before the fucking world cup began, as has been reported, it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport.

The hatred towards him is a product of:
- selection
- performance
- interviewing with another employer nine months after stepping into a five year contract.

Ending a bunch of Wallabies greats careers all in the pursuit of a long term mission then jumping out straight away.

I really hope he makes us eat our words and keeps the rebuild going.

 

[kiap]

I'd be happy to never see Jones near the Wallabies again but regardless, if reports are true and he's soon to be off to Japan, I reckon it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport in generations.

Just tawdry behaviour from a charlatan whose priority was always his own pocket, but apparently not his reputation.

Yeah, but ...

... it's actually the best outcome from where we currently are.

Goooooone, no payout, and get someone else.

 

[Tex]

'It's what I was paid to do maaaaaaate'

 

[HooperPocockSmith]

Ending a bunch of Wallabies greats careers all in the pursuit of a long term mission then jumping out straight away.

I really hope he makes us eat our words and keeps the rebuild going.

If this was the case suuuuuurely he'd have come out in one of the pressers and put it to bed. Why keep us all hanging?

 

[Tomthumb]

Maaaaaate ya don't know what you're talking about maaaaaaaaate.

Nah, if he was interviewing before the fucking world cup began, as has been reported, it's the biggest act of bastardry in Australian sport.

The hatred towards him is a product of:
- selection
- performance
- interviewing with another employer nine months after stepping into a five year contract.

This is the problem, using the word "hatred" when talking about a coach you don't like is madness

Get a grip

 

[Braveheart81]

No no no

The real question is why can’t a country of 26m people which has a higher propensity per person to engage with contact sports than any other country produce enough players for 5 teams? This isn’t trying to fill 10-15 team league, a measly 5 teams. 5 teams in any professional sporting context is ridiculously low threshold to fill. You have far bigger issues with your pathways if this is an issue.

Why can’t the 3rd largest economy of the established rugby nations produce enough players for 5 teams?

We produce more than enough players to fill 5 teams. The problem is we don't produce enough revenue to sign the quality of players needed for these 5 teams to be successful in the competition they play in.

This is why cutting teams isn't the solution because it also cuts the revenue.

 

[Tex]

This is the problem, using the word "hatred" when talking about a coach you don't like is madness

Get a grip

Perhaps 'animosity' is easier for you to digest?

Forgive me for being salty. It's a bit rich for my palate to have waited four years for the peak of the sport and team I have followed religiously for a quarter of a century to be absolutely rugged by a charlatan like Jones.

But absolutely, go off on the important things like whether an anon account on a rugby forum is using the right language to define how its community views a bad faith actor.

 

[Bullrush]

We need as many opportunities as possible to get as many players into our game. Ireland has 4 teams but the players really don't have any other options. We go 5 teams but they have the NRL as a viable option to play in. If Im a young chap wanting to play professionally do I take the chance one the NRL's player group picking me up, or do I try and squeeze into one of the 5 teams we have in Rugby... odds are most will go for NRL

Who gives a fuck if a young chap wants to play professionally. Half of the boys running in 1st XV probably want to be playing professionally. The question is are they good enough to play professionally? The NRL has always had (and probably always will have) more opportunities than rugby in Australia and yet that didn't stop Australia from being, at a minimum, top 3 in the world for probably close to two decades.

I have no problem with how many professional teams Australia wants to have so long as we have the talent to fill them.

The issue isn't so much having enough teams, it's having proper talent ID to try and retain the best talent early.

Personally, I've become rather indifferent to how many Super Rugby teams Australia has. After reading articles with Steve Anderson and David Nucifora who think that 5 teams are sustainable, I'm happy to listen to people who have way more experience and knowledge about these things. But what those guys also stress is the coaching ability that has to improve in the grades below Super.

Perhaps the focus on how many Super Rugby teams Australia has is a little misguided and 'apple cart before the horse' type of thinking?

 

[Bullrush]

This is the problem, using the word "hatred" when talking about a coach you don't like is madness

Get a grip

I get it - 'hate' is a strong word to use and it seems silly to be so emotionally invested in sport. But it comes from the same place that drives people to buy a heap of merchandise and paraphernalia and tickets and spend time on forums and reading articles and watching FB clips etc that keeps the game alive and thriving.

You can't ask for one without getting the other.

 

[Slim 293]

The big red strap on Fox Sports News with EDDIE JONES SET TO QUIT WALLABIES as I stepped into work was like a nice warm hug coming out of the rain...

 

[Pfitzy]

Do we believe Ben Darwin that we need more cohesion between the players all playing across the same one or two teams. If so let's create a super super team like the Crusaders and the rest of Australian rugby can feed into it.

Having followed Darwin on social media, with the caveat that I haven't seen under the hood on his research, I don't think he's suggesting we create a super team at all. Similarly the assumption on the Gold Digger doco that we should go back to 3 teams - correlation vs causation.

His general talk on cohesion stands up IMHO.

 

[Pfitzy]

Right, so let's assume Eddie flies straight to Haneda instead of landing at Kingsford Smith.

1) Larkham for coach.
2) Get Darwin's Gainline analytics into the room.
3) Get every eligible player in Australia on a zoom call to say the slate is clean.
4) Tweak the High Performance with appropriate Centralisation (get in Ponies, we're going to Successville).

Beat the Lions in 2025 3-zip, win both home RWCs in 2027 and 2029, and burn down a few existing shitty pathways while we're at it.

 

[Pfitzy]

The big red strap on

Uh.... @Dismal Pillock ?

 

[Brumby Runner]

Much as I think Eddie should go I won't believe it's happening while the news seems to be originating with News.com/Foxtel.

 

[Derpus]

Right, so let's assume Eddie flies straight to Haneda instead of landing at Kingsford Smith.

1) Larkham for coach.
2) Get Darwin's Gainline analytics into the room.
3) Get every eligible player in Australia on a zoom call to say the slate is clean.
4) Tweak the High Performance with appropriate Centralisation (get in Ponies, we're going to Successville).

Beat the Lions in 2025 3-zip, win both home RWCs in 2027 and 2029, and burn down a few existing shitty pathways while we're at it.

Darwin's work never seemed that amazing to me. It's basically - if you have two great players that play together regularly they will be better than two great players that don't. It's not exactly revolutionary.

He admits himself that if you have two average players with high cohesion they still probably won't be better than two great players with low cohesion.

 

[Derpus]

Uh.... @Dismal Pillock ?

It's red so you know you are being punished.