Australia vs British and Irish Lions - 1st Test (Brisbane)

[Richo]

Cliff never sees out the final 20 mins let alone the last 10.

Never.

 

[I like to watch]

Or that there was no backup plan in place if Lilo was injured early.

And no backup for the backup for the backup.
Deans is a stupid prick,everyone knows he needed to have at least 3 specialist 12's on the bench.
I was just looking for your post before the game on this very topic, it must have been deleted?

 

[redstragic]

How the f*ck could he plan for that?
(Tomane or Cummins)

Horan has been on triple m this morning saying the Wallabies Surgeon told him last night that McCabes neck has not healed and he should not have played.

So Deans could have planned for injuries by not picking players already injured.

 

[Pete King]

proposed backline test 2 (assuming all injured out - big loss AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper))

9 Genia
10 To'omua
11 Folau
12 Horne
13 Cummings
14 JOC (James O'Connor)
15 Beale

ideally Lilo slots in there at 12

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Obviously disappointed with the result but what a great advertisement for Heavensgame and the series?

If the mugs at Rugby Central in Castle St Leonards can not make a motza from this series, then we are doomed.

Last nights game and result are a marketing dream.

Watching the replay now. Israel Folou's second try was an absolute beauty.

The ARU contract negotiation team need to give IF's manager the password and BSB/account number to the ARU's on-line banking account. Simple. No more stuffing around.

 

[I like to watch]

What? What?

The tweet was nearly 12 months ago FFS. He has copped a serious penalty and handled himself with maturity since then. As for his game plan - he has been the best 10 in Australian rugby this year. The Reds sit in 4th place on the table.

Beale in the meantime has assualted a bouncer, assulated his skipper, assualted another team mate and broken rehab conditions. But he is OK to play according to Robbie.. Give us a break!

Forget about the toxic stuff,Robbie announced publicly what Quade needed to do to justify selection. Quade and his coach decided to thumb their noses at the coach,and to ignore his suggestions as to his playing style.
Link and Quade made it impossible for RD to back down and pick Quade.

 

[Country Kid]

a backline based of form and correct playing positions (though I'm not sure about some wingers on the right or left side)

9: Genia
10: Cooper
11: Ioane/Mogg/Morahan
12. Godwin/Lealiifano
13. Ashley-Cooper/Kuridrani
14: Morahan/Betham/Ashley-Cooper/Mogg/Ioane (Digby? right wing?)
15. Folau

 

[Brisbok]

Just watched the Horwell stomping incident on Jones (3min mark). Looks nasty, got him in the face but it didn't appear to be deliberate. Will be a nervous few days.

Horwill making a strange habit of these accidental stampings at ruck/maul time.

 

[Brumby Runner]

I'd have the same starting pack for next week, but I'd look at having MMM or Kimlin on the bench instead of Simmons in case Mowen or Palu were to go down....

Think we need both Kimlin and MMM. Leave Simmons and Palu out, start with Kimlin at 6 and Mowen at 8 with MMM on the bench. Although circumstances interfered last night to not allow both open sides to operate as open sides together, I still don't like that proposition. Remember that it didn't work too good with George Smith and Phil Waugh both of whom imo were better than Hooper and Gill at this stage of their careers. Maybe keep Palu on the bench for Gill?

 

[I like to watch]

I agree.

I always thought if we were going to lose this game it would be because of our goal kicking. And that turned out to be the case. It was below par. I've never rated JOC (James O'Connor) in this department due to his inconsistency. And Kurtley, well he simply caved under pressure.

How is slipping considered a choke?

 

[fatprop]

Horan has been on triple m this morning saying the Wallabies Surgeon told him last night that McCabes neck has not healed and he should not have played.

So Deans could have planned for injuries by not picking players already injured.

20/20 hindsight is a lovely thing

How many players do you actually think are "injury free"

My understanding of pro sports is that everyone is injured and playing with something. (I remember Natham Hindmarsh saying the evidence of a top player is how he plays wounded, not when "fit" because that never happens)

Deans takes his medical team's advice, he ain't the doctor.

 

[Brumby Runner]

a backline based of form and correct playing positions (though I'm not sure about some wingers on the right or left side)

9: Genia
10: Cooper
11: Ioane/Mogg
12. Godwin/Lealiifano
13. Ashley-Cooper/Kuridrani
14: Cummins
15. Folau

FIFY

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Horwill making a strange habit of these accidental stampings at ruck/maul time.

I want you on my jury


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[I like to watch]

This is exactly what I said to a few friends at the ground. Beale will be the focus of the media and idiotic supporters that don't understand who is behind the decisions.

Deans made JOC (James O'Connor) the 10 - he clearly isn't yet up for it and Beale outshone him in the playmaker role when he came on.

Deans made JOC (James O'Connor) the kicker - he was clearly average at this.

Deans chose Beale in the team (worked out well), but also instructed him to take over kicking when he came on (extreme lack of judgement knowing Beale's recent history)

Deans chose to play several players that were risky in regards to fitness - in regards to Barnes and MCCabe it bit us strongly.

He made JOC (James O'Connor) 10 with a ball playing 12 outside him.
He made JOC (James O'Connor) the BACKUP kicker.
He chose players that were fit,to play from the bench.
How did BB get injured? Tell me that was forseeable!
IF BIL lost their kicker in the first minute,I don't believe they kick as many goals.In which case we would have won the match.
HAd the BIL lost their playmaker in the first minute,I think we would have won the match.

 

[Bruce Ross]

It was a difficult night for James," Deans said. "Obviously the disruption didn't help. But I guess he was at the heart of working our way into a positon to win the game, so you have probably got to give him credit for that, in the circumstance

Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/w...er/story-e6frf55l-1226668205734#ixzz2WzIgy0o4

All this talk about Quade may be academic. Based in this quote i am not sure Deans actually comprehends what happens on the field.

(Suggested removal of an unnecessary qualifier and substitution of a more appropriate tense)

Deans is an enigma. He has had more experience than any other coach in world rugby - at explaining losses. Yet on the one occasion when even the harshest of his critics would have conceded that the most recent unvictory was principally due to the most extraordinary bad luck, he proceeds to "give credit" to a player for doing something which he would have been explicitly put on the field to do but manifestly was not.
.

 

[Swat]

Anyone know where I can find player statistics for the match?

 

[gold heart]

How is slipping considered a choke?

I was gutted for Beale on that last kick but he should have kicked the previous penalty - he choked there but not on the last one....all in all there were many positives when he came on and that run from him was classic beale. I keep thinking about that kick that won us the game on the velt.

 

[gold heart]

I want you on my jury


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Does not look good at all for Horwill

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Anyone know where I can find player statistics for the match?

Sure, I've got them:
QC (Quade Cooper) has received 15 times the mentions Stephen Moore has during post game analysis on this thread.
Go figure.


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[Hugh Jarse]

20/20 hindsight is a lovely thing

How many players do you actually think are "injury free"

My understanding of pro sports is that everyone is injured and playing with something. (I remember Natham Hindmarsh saying the evidence of a top player is how he plays wounded, not when "fit" because that never happens)

Deans takes his medical team's advice, he ain't the doctor.

Not only pro sports, but amateur and schoolboy level. Look at how much strapping tape is used at all levels of footy.