Marce
John Hipwell (52)
Yeah, and if they can pay 250k for a rookie player then can pay some coins for a local scout
Aussie Player Exodus
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Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Sure, if you want to use deliberately incendiary language, or we were talking about someone like the Aus U20s coach, or someone on the Waratahs paybook.
If we're talking about the Second XV coach at St Kevins or a board member at Sunnybank, as I'm suggesting, it implies a level of betrayal that quite simply doesn't exist in a practical or ethical sense.
If we're talking about the Second XV coach at St Kevins or a board member at Sunnybank, as I'm suggesting, it implies a level of betrayal that quite simply doesn't exist in a practical or ethical sense.
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
No it wouldn’t have to be applied across all businesses. Look at the AFL, NBA, NFL and so on.
All it would take is world Rugby deciding to change the rules.
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
That wasn’t about transfer fees. It was a follow up on my point about how the Force should have had dispensation to spend over the cap to bring wallabies eligible players home over signing foreign players when they were reintroduced to super rugby
Wallaby Man
Nev Cottrell (35)
If WR (World Rugby) applied its own laws it’s still doesn’t mean it’s legally binding. Soccer went through this 30yrs ago with the Bosman ruling. Where clubs were demanding compensation for out of contract players etc. the player took it to the European court which ruled in his favor. It’s why free transfers exist in football. The sport was trying to apply something that wasn’t legally allowed.
Bosman ruling - Wikipedia
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
The draft in the AFL isn’t legally binding but it works.If WR (World Rugby) (World Rugby) applied its own laws it’s still doesn’t mean it’s legally binding. Soccer went through this 30yrs ago with the Bosman ruling. Where clubs were demanding compensation for out of contract players etc. the player took it to the European court which ruled in his favor. It’s why free transfers exist in football. The sport was trying to apply something that wasn’t legally allowed.
Bosman ruling - Wikipedia
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Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
To my understanding, it only works because the AFL, the players union and the clubs work very carefully to ensure edge case that may result in a legal challenge result in favourable outcomes for the players.
Do you honestly believe the draft would be around (at least, with a similar size and restrictions to its current form) if Luke Ball hadn't made it Collingwood in 2009?
Wallaby Man
Nev Cottrell (35)
We have been through the court in Australia about the draft and it ruled in the players favor. As Highlander said, it’s a delicate balance between the parties to ensure players aren’t wanting to take legal action.
The court case I was referring to was in the NRL when in the early 90s tried to implement the start of a draft system and was taken to court by Terry Hill. The idea has been on the scrap heap ever since. You could probably implement one through an EBA.
Doritos Day
Johnnie Wallace (23)
The commonality between most competitions with a draft system is there is generally nowhere else to go.
The American leagues pay orders of magnitude more than international counterparts.
There's only one professional Australian (and American) football league.
Rugby and league players are not subject to the same constraint
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Look the trade and draft system saw Collingwood miss out on Nick Stevens and Chris Judd. So they probably would have gone to court if it happened a third time. Especially as Collingwood fans still hold onto Peter Moore taking court action to cross to Melbourne with no transfer fee. But somehow his son captaining the club now has eased that pain
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Simplest solution would be for world rugby to remove the grandparents qualification route. You either have to be born there, parents were born there or you're now a resident of that country.
Keep agents as far away as you can from whatever solution otherwise you'll end up like football were agent fees are extremely problematic and due to the high fees, agents constantly shop players around.
Keep agents as far away as you can from whatever solution otherwise you'll end up like football were agent fees are extremely problematic and due to the high fees, agents constantly shop players around.
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
It'd be a good change following on from the ability to change eligibility, but it'd be a struggle to get it passed - England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales all benefit from it more than most, it's next to impossible to get anything through with all of them opposed to it.
You can probably add in Italy to the beneficiary's who wouldn't want the change too.
Rebel man
John Thornett (49)
Coming from Frankston anything but jail is pretty amazing
Members Section
John Thornett (49)
Didn't he lead them in 1 game last yr? another st kevins kid yuck
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Eddie had massive wraps on him in this weeks podcast.
Marce
John Hipwell (52)
Yeah but in the best case that gonna change in 5 years. Meanwhile we'll see a lost generation
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Yeah, we're absolutely going to lose a whole generation of players to their grandparents nationality and not just a few guys on the fringe of the squad and maybe one or two we wanted to keep the same as it has always been
