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Aussie Player Exodus

Wilson

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
The Welsh look to be moving forward with cutting back to 2/3 teams. One of the details out of the report seems to be a restriction of only 2 non-welsh qualified players per squad and 1 per match day 23. There aren't too many Australians there we'd be desperate to get back, though Max Douglas would be a pretty good option for most sides.

The loss of 2 full squads and a flood of players onto the market might help a bit for retention on our end over the next year or 2 though.
 
Dctarget

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Wilson said:
The Welsh look to be moving forward with cutting back to 2/3 teams. One of the details out of the report seems to be a restriction of only 2 non-welsh qualified players per squad and 1 per match day 23. There aren't too many Australians there we'd be desperate to get back, though Max Douglas would be a pretty good option for most sides.

The loss of 2 full squads and a flood of players onto the market might help a bit for retention on our end over the next year or 2 though.
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It's an interesting tactic. As much as it pains me to say, cutting the Rebels has definitely worked in the short term. The longer term effects will be more difficult to measure and attribute. But Scotland make it work well with two teams, I don't see why Wales can't. Obviously absolutely gutting for whatever two get cut though, commiserations to their fans, it's not pleasant*.


*My mood has been significantly better this year though after not having to watch the Rebels get pumped every Friday night.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
Dctarget said:
It's an interesting tactic. As much as it pains me to say, cutting the Rebels has definitely worked in the short term. The longer term effects will be more difficult to measure and attribute. But Scotland make it work well with two teams, I don't see why Wales can't. Obviously absolutely gutting for whatever two get cut though, commiserations to their fans, it's not pleasant*.


*My mood has been significantly better this year though after not having to watch the Rebels get pumped every Friday night.
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It might be necessary for Wales, but I also don't think they're addressing the key issues they have - they are such an incredibly inefficient operation economically. Annual revenue for the WRU is around £100m, close to twice what RA brings in per year.

There's more to it than that, and I'm not anywhere near as familiar with their operations as I am RAs, but I find it very difficult to believe they don't have significant savings available to them before taking this step.
 
Major Tom

Major Tom

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Wilson said:
It might be necessary for Wales, but I also don't think they're addressing the key issues they have - they are such an incredibly inefficient operation economically. Annual revenue for the WRU is around £100m, close to twice what RA brings in per year.

There's more to it than that, and I'm not anywhere near as familiar with their operations as I am RAs, but I find it very difficult to believe they don't have significant savings available to them before taking this step.
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RA would be laughing if they could bring in that money each year!
 
Adam84

Adam84

John Eales (66)
Wilson said:
The Welsh look to be moving forward with cutting back to 2/3 teams. One of the details out of the report seems to be a restriction of only 2 non-welsh qualified players per squad and 1 per match day 23. There aren't too many Australians there we'd be desperate to get back, though Max Douglas would be a pretty good option for most sides.

The loss of 2 full squads and a flood of players onto the market might help a bit for retention on our end over the next year or 2 though.
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Archer Holz would be one, as a THP Australian Rugby should be keeping an eye on players like him.
Also Jack Walsh has served a pretty good apprenticeship as a playmaker/fullback, would be good depth for any of the teams id say.
 
Dctarget

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Wilson said:
It might be necessary for Wales, but I also don't think they're addressing the key issues they have - they are such an incredibly inefficient operation economically. Annual revenue for the WRU is around £100m, close to twice what RA brings in per year.

There's more to it than that, and I'm not anywhere near as familiar with their operations as I am RAs, but I find it very difficult to believe they don't have significant savings available to them before taking this step.
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Surely that means they can run a Glasgow Warriors pretty neatly. 6N money split between two teams means they can be poaching every Sione and Mack with a Welsh granny soon.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
Dctarget said:
Surely that means they can run a Glasgow Warriors pretty neatly. 6N money split between two teams means they can be poaching every Sione and Mack with a Welsh granny soon.
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I don't think they can run anything particularly neatly to be honest. They have massive issues with the community game trying to run the professional setups and making a mess of things. They might try to go looking for them, but arguably it was more likely when they had 4 teams to fill and they haven't done much of it, whether that's down to intent or ability I'm not sure.

They'll have a hard enough time keeping their young players turning out for England with the drop in pro places too, there's a lot of dual qualification in their young players as far as I'm aware.
 
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WoodysRFC

Larry Dwyer (12)
Dctarget said:
It's an interesting tactic. As much as it pains me to say, cutting the Rebels has definitely worked in the short term. The longer term effects will be more difficult to measure and attribute. But Scotland make it work well with two teams, I don't see why Wales can't. Obviously absolutely gutting for whatever two get cut though, commiserations to their fans, it's not pleasant*.


*My mood has been significantly better this year though after not having to watch the Rebels get pumped every Friday night.
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Tbf, Scotland are at a massive advantage by having a large global diaspora, absolutely no concerns in selecting from anywhere, and England and France nearby with deep squads / academies (essentially paying for the development and maintenance of Scottish qualified players).
 
Dctarget

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
WoodysRFC said:
Tbf, Scotland are at a massive advantage by having a large global diaspora, absolutely no concerns in selecting from anywhere, and England and France nearby with deep squads / academies (essentially paying for the development and maintenance of Scottish qualified players).
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Yeah Scotland has twice the global diaspora as Wales, guess that roughly correlates to their population sizes in the 20th century.
 
KOB1987

KOB1987

John Eales (66)
I'm just learning AI (Co-pilot) so I asked the question :

Estimated Size of Diaspora

NationEstimated Diaspora PopulationKey Destinations
Scotland28–40 million (some estimates go up to 80 million)USA, Canada, Australia, England, New Zealand, Argentina
Wales~1.8 million (more conservative estimates)USA (especially Pennsylvania), Australia, England, Patagonia (Argentina)
 
dru

dru

Jason Little (69)
Dctarget said:
It's an interesting tactic. As much as it pains me to say, cutting the Rebels has definitely worked in the short term. The longer term effects will be more difficult to measure and attribute.
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I for one will have exactly nil problem making this “attribution”. We’ve just had the sugar hit piece that provides “greatness”. The shrinking part follows closely.
 
Adam84

Adam84

John Eales (66)
Given the financial situation, I think shrinking was an inevitable outcome it was just a matter of which trajectory curve it was going to follow...
 
TSR

TSR

Steve Williams (59)
Nawaqanitwase is having an absolute stormer tonight for the Chooks. Set up two tries off some freakish play.

As good as our current wingers are going he would be a very handy player to get back prior to the World Cup.
 
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