ARU fee structure change for 2015
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David Wilson (68)
That's the problem, unions are only answerable to their members. The greater good isn't part of the agenda. (ask Holden or Toyota workers if you don't believe me
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Frank Row (1)
Can anybody tell me what was the result of the ARU meting on Friday?
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Frank Row (1)
More to the point In Queensland , I know I have a country mate who is going to loose his club within 2 years. It seems that we are propping up a program that doesn't give us suitable return.
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Steve Williams (59)
True, but those members are public figures. And in some cases, very public figures.That's the problem, unions are only answerable to their members. The greater good isn't part of the agenda. (ask Holden or Toyota workers if you don't believe me
They are not all immune to the constituency that makes their bread - i.e. the rugby public (well, tbh, a few might just be greedy and couldn't care, but most will want the game to be in good standing).
That's why Peter FitzSimon's article was a good one. It puts the spotlight on the pro players to "take a fair chunk of the hit". That light doesn't just go on the ARU.
And the players probably won't even take an actual hit. It'll be more of a case containing the rise in their share after the new TV deal to ensure the grassroots can get something.
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David Wilson (68)
I agree with what you're saying, it's just that the RUPA have shown no inclination to put the game ahead of personal gain since the advent of the professional game and the ARU have shown little interest in taking them on.
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I believe RUPA has negotiated for a set percentage of ARU revenue to be out towards players wages..
Part of the problem previously is that an agreement was in place and the ARU was still spending several percentage points more of revenue on player payments than was agreed.
It's all very well to say that the players should take a hit, but just sticking to paying what has been agreed would be a good start by the ARU.
It's all very well to say that the players should take a hit, but just sticking to paying what has been agreed would be a good start by the ARU.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
The two year rule on new contracts will help, we had too many semi-regular wallabies earning full time wages. They've tried to limit the number of contracts and the players did recently take a match payment reduction.
But we have the fundamental problem that several other competitions have higher contracts than the ARU can't afford to match.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
There's a really interesting graph on page 81 of the 2012 ARU annual report (link to the pdf).
It shows where the money comes from, and where the money goes.
It really highlights just how dependent the entire game in this country is on Wallaby funding. Even Super rugby runs a huge deficit let alone every other level.
It shows where the money comes from, and where the money goes.
It really highlights just how dependent the entire game in this country is on Wallaby funding. Even Super rugby runs a huge deficit let alone every other level.
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David Codey (61)
Yeah,they decided to go with the Shiraz,in preference to the cab sav........
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I know this was reported as the case previously, but is that still the case?.. RUPA agreed to changes in the test match fees last year, my understanding is that this was to reduce the overspending on players wages.
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Does anyone think it's less than coincidental that in this current economic climate - Robinson, Alexander, Faulkner, Sio, Ryan & Weeks all shared the the bench prop duties. I'd be surprised if any of them played the required 8 games for an automatic ARU top-up....
It's been going on since Deans', McKenzie followed suit.
It's been going on since Deans', McKenzie followed suit.
The 2014 financials should give a clearer picture of this.
Part of the problem is that it takes a while to reduce spending when the cause has come from committing to too many contracts.
2014 will also be interesting from the perspective of how much money the Rebels costs the ARU.
Slipper, Kepu and Alexander were the only three props to play more than 8 tests this year. Slipper and Kepu started every test (which I'm betting is the first time it's ever happened in Australia) and Alexander came off the bench 10 times.
Robinson played 6 tests, Cowan 5 and the rest less than that.
I think Sio would have easily played 8 test if he hadn't been injured for most of the test season.
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David Wilson (68)
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Simon Poidevin (60)
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David Wilson (68)
Very interesting reading. Clearly Super rugby needs to do better in terms of earnings and 7s seem to break about even.
There's about $20 million in the outgoing graph as "other", about $5 million of the in the community rugby column and about $15 million in the other column.
It seems a bit odd to have more than 20% of expenditure listed as "other". $20 million out of expenditure of about $95 million.
A little tid-bit I picked up on page 86 was that JON was on the board of RWC Ltd - a position he only left in Feb 2014.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...rld-cup-director/story-fnii0ksb-1226836678251
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Simon Poidevin (60)
Think that Other category is for the community rugby expenses and grants (eg the premier rugby costs which have just been cut) & corporate expenditure.
Corporate is one area that definitely needs a cut and to Pulver's credit by all accounts the ARU is running much leaner these days.
Not least because JON's salary is now off the books
It needs to be remembered that a lot of the Super Rugby revenue doesn't happen within the ARU.
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