All Blacks v Wallabies, Dunedin, 19th October 2013
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Muttonbird
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Yep. If I recall correctly the argument for moving to three matches (apart from the money) was that the Bledisloe didn't change hands enough because the challenger had to win the two matches. Well, the challenger still has to win two matches in a three game series so...
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Jason Little (69)
But probably has the potential to drop the Wallabies further down the world rankings if they lose.
The Bledisloe Cup has changed from 1 match to 2 matches to 3 matches and even 4 matches so frequently that I don't think there is any standard number of matches in the series.
Personally I think three matches is the best because it makes it unlikely that there is a tied series.
As much as we have this issue where the third match is a dead rubber, if we only had a two game series, the second match would have been a dead rubber as far as the Bledisloe Cup was concerned.
Personally I don't think there is ever really such a thing as a dead rubber in rugby tests between Australia and New Zealand. Both sides will be taking the match very seriously and be desperate to win to get their end of year tours off to a good start.
Personally I think three matches is the best because it makes it unlikely that there is a tied series.
As much as we have this issue where the third match is a dead rubber, if we only had a two game series, the second match would have been a dead rubber as far as the Bledisloe Cup was concerned.
Personally I don't think there is ever really such a thing as a dead rubber in rugby tests between Australia and New Zealand. Both sides will be taking the match very seriously and be desperate to win to get their end of year tours off to a good start.
nugget
Jimmy Flynn (14)
The AB's will be treating this game like opposed training.
If the wallabies start to fire, the AB's will step up into 2nd gear, maybe 3rd, and put 20 points on in 5 mins. Then go back to idle.
If the Wallabies really fire and put the AB's under real prolonged pressure, they might not know what hit them and get caught out. Stranger things have happened...
If the wallabies start to fire, the AB's will step up into 2nd gear, maybe 3rd, and put 20 points on in 5 mins. Then go back to idle.
If the Wallabies really fire and put the AB's under real prolonged pressure, they might not know what hit them and get caught out. Stranger things have happened...
Blake
Ted Fahey (11)
Agree 3 matches is best, but I think there is merit in the idea of playing the game before the the championship instead of after, that way it will never be a complete dead rubber as the final game will still carry championship points.
Additionally, IMO, It would be good if the challenging team got to host both home games.
Just not 4 again, ever.
Additionally, IMO, It would be good if the challenging team got to host both home games.
Just not 4 again, ever.
I am sure the ARU would think this is the greatest idea ever.
I can't imagine NZRU would feel the same.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
Right........financially reward the loser?!
Blake
Ted Fahey (11)
No, you would need to split profits. Though I presume tests held in Aust raise more money than test in NZ? Given the coming test is being held in a 30K stadium.
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
How many of those 30K are AB supporters?
Not just financial reward either but also the public and fans. NZ public would have had only one chance every year to watch a Bledisloe match in NZ since what...2003?!
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
I can see why you like it Seb, but for myself watching the ABs play the Wallabies 3 times a year is too much. It may help the development of the Wallabies game, but not sure it will help the ABs much at all!! I am pretty sure in next year or two NZRU will find it hard to fill stadiums in NZ for Bledisloe unless there is quite an improvement. Talking to rugby mates at home you can feel the whole 'shit not another Wallaby test', even the Stadium in Dunedin hadn't sold out last weekend, and that only holds about 28-30000 tops, and Dunedin don't get that many tests!! I think it a shame, I love test rugby, have really ebjoyed generally the Wallaby/AB tests, but I struggling to get excited about it.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
How many of those 30K are AB supporters?
Not just financial reward either but also the public and fans. NZ public would have had only one chance every year to watch a Bledisloe match in NZ since what.2003?!
The message coming across in this thread is that the NZ's are not too fussed about watching the wallabies though - so if they are not too fussed about it then why should it matter that the NZ public "have only one chance every year"?
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
Dead Rubber you say - only dead rubber I had was at the Beenleigh Drive-in a million years ago.
Technically dead but huge game for QZ and a potential banana skin for the AB's
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Well to be quite honest Zander not sure if there anyone else I want All Blacks to play 3 times EVERY bloody year!!
nugget
Jimmy Flynn (14)
yes a dead rubber, a real, bona fide, dead rubber. That is a good thing for us, not a bad thing.
RoffsChoice
Jim Lenehan (48)
If I were in charge of the All Blacks, I'd abandon the 3rd Bledisloe and instead get the team to Europe a week early and play someone they would otherwise miss.
who would they play outside the test window?
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