AIC Rugby 2012

[xxxx]

not sure exactly, but rumour has it that a few of Patties players were playing in the Mal Meninga Cup. They couldn't play school until the MM season was over. I know for a fact that at Marist you are not aloud to play club of any sort during 1st XV season. Aren't Patties a bit of a league school these days? probably has a lot to do with them allowing their better players to play rep. league.

thanks interesting, i thought that eg pats, eddies and padua were label league schools because they played in the Confraternity Carnival, but I was lead to believe that schools would only let boys play in CC if they play in AIC rugby. to qutoe from pats web site
St Patrick’s brief but successful history in the Carnival has made it a much anticipated annual event on the school calendar, despite the fact that Rugby League is not the preferred code at the College.
I hope schools are not starting to go soft on this, I would hate to see the AIC rugby become weak because boys are allow to put club before school be league or rugby club.
thoughts???
would also love to know what are the percentages of leaguies vs rugby club players 1st XV teams in AIC???? I would suggest its a fairly even mix across all schools, if you know the break up of your school would love to hear the nos

 

[3DD!3$01D80Y]

thanks interesting, i thought that eg pats, eddies and padua were label league schools because they played in the Confraternity Carnival, but I was lead to believe that schools would only let boys play in CC if they play in AIC rugby. to qutoe from pats web site

St Patrick’s brief but successful history in the Carnival has made it a much anticipated annual event on the school calendar, despite the fact that Rugby League is not the preferred code at the College.

I hope schools are not starting to go soft on this, I would hate to see the AIC rugby become weak because boys are allow to put club before school be league or rugby club.
thoughts???
would also love to know what are the percentages of leaguies vs rugby club players 1st XV teams in AIC???? I would suggest its a fairly even mix across all schools, if you know the break up of your school would love to hear the nos

Tevita Folau from Eddies can't play first because he missed out on a few first matches because he had league rep to play. Eddies will always be a rugby league school, so they can't stop players from playing rep, because that is where their heart is at. Although I do think that they can't use the school like this, its rubbish and I think Tevita would of probably had a great season in first, but its to late now for him to be put back in the squad, unfortunately.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

I have been around the AIC blocks via my club connections and have come across a few SEC teachers and players and I know for a fact that the claim 'eddies are a League' school is a bit of a false claim as if you look at the whole of confraternity Eddies have never really achieved that much in it. Also i know for a fact that the sports co-ordinator Wayne always says that Rugby comes first confraternity is some special on the side. Eddies always claim that their a league school if they lose and claim how good they are when they win. I am sure that the current rugby co-ordinator would be very upset to hear that his program is only a secondary one. I would also presume that if in fact eddies where in fact a league school, they wouldn't let so many of their players go to QLD schoolboys trials. As i would assume that letting current Easts players Heta Manuel & Simon Mikaele go to QLD trials would have only been of detriment to the league team.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

P.s I also noticed that QLD centre Sam Johnson who was an AIC representative 2 years in a row now plays for the titans i am sure SEC if a league school would not have given him an option to abandon school rugby league in search of a mere 'secondary' sport like union

 

[Iona2006]

Villa vs Eddies: Villa by 3
Lauries vs Pats: Pats by 12
Padua vs Iona: Iona by 15+
Ashgrove vs Peters: Ashgrove by 13

 

[3DD!3$01D80Y]

Being better at union than does not mean that the school is a rugby union school. In every age group (including first) more play league than union (very few play union for club) but the majority go for union representative teams because they see that their is more of a chance for them to show their skills of there. You look at the Eddies first team and most of them have played league their whole life and a lot are contracted to league teams. The rugby co-ordinator knows that they are from a league background and will always be league background. This works as an advantage to the co-ordinator because he uses their league running background and uses it for union, same with the tackle, you want to dominate the tackle so that your team can counter-ruck.

 

[3DD!3$01D80Y]

Villa vs Eddies: Villa by 3
Lauries vs Pats: Pats by 12
Padua vs Iona: Iona by 15+
Ashgrove vs Peters: Ashgrove by 13

Villa by 3? Are you serious? All the others I agree with but I think your underestimating Eddies.

 

[thierry dusautoir]

Being better at union than does not mean that the school is a rugby union school. In every age group (including first) more play league than union (very few play union for club) but the majority go for union representative teams because they see that their is more of a chance for them to show their skills of there. You look at the Eddies first team and most of them have played league their whole life and a lot are contracted to league teams. The rugby co-ordinator knows that they are from a league background and will always be league background. This works as an advantage to the co-ordinator because he uses their league running background and uses it for union, same with the tackle, you want to dominate the tackle so that your team can counter-ruck.

Alot of first players at GPS schools play league aswell but they are not league schools, look at IGS they come from the same background as your school and they pride themselves on their rugby however i would suggest most of their players are fact leaguies are NRL contracted i guess that makes them a league school?....the players may be league players but the school is a definate rugby school i think its more out of the fact there is one union team in Ipswich. I believe that they have rugby union classes not league classes. Dave has coached alot of league but i think that was more out of career opportunities. I think your really bobbing for apples when you say that the running rugby and good tackle technique implemented by the eddies coaches come from their league background.....i guess the Chiefs mus tbe coached by league coach aswell. I am also aware that you have some people involved with qru development on your coaching staff so i am sure the league influence isnt as big as you say.

Also to on your point of QLD schoolboys being a greater place to showcase talent you are absolutely correct it is a greater place to showcase their skills......for union. If they wanted to play league they would go to confraternity where they could be watched in action in front of scouts from across the NRL. St Edmunds has close ties to league through the community but when it comes to number 1 sport its Union. I don't think your recruiting players like Wilson Bennet & Jordan Perese so that they can go to confro

 

[Marbig]

Villa by 3? Are you serious? All the others I agree with but I think your underestimating Eddies.

Maybe you're underestimating Villa?

 

[iluvfooty]

thanks interesting, i thought that eg pats, eddies and padua were label league schools because they played in the Confraternity Carnival, but I was lead to believe that schools would only let boys play in CC if they play in AIC rugby. to qutoe from pats web site

St Patrick’s brief but successful history in the Carnival has made it a much anticipated annual event on the school calendar, despite the fact that Rugby League is not the preferred code at the College.

I hope schools are not starting to go soft on this, I would hate to see the AIC rugby become weak because boys are allow to put club before school be league or rugby club.
thoughts???
would also love to know what are the percentages of leaguies vs rugby club players 1st XV teams in AIC???? I would suggest its a fairly even mix across all schools, if you know the break up of your school would love to hear the nos

you must realise though that they missed the trials because they were playing for their club in the mal meninga cup, i know a lot of players that would put playing in the meninga cup before some school rugby trials, its the highest form of league you can play for u18 plus not to mention they are trying to get a contract seeing as all the nrl scouts go out to watch. st pats would have missed centre richie skelton who played in the meniga cup final last week for redcliffe against townsville, he will be a very valuable asset to a weaker st pats 1sts this year

from the 2011 aic rugby this is what i know or have heard of - sam johnson (eddies) titans toyota cup, jonno kent (ash) raiders sg ball (u18s) expected to play toyota cup this year, jack creighton (pad) bulldogs sg ball/toyota cup, harry moore (ash) storm toyota cup, christian welch (villa) broncos development team and i heard that the lauries centre is in the melbourne storm academy so there are quite a few aic boys that will probably be playing toyota cup in the coming years. not to this years 1sts with i know wilson bennet (sec) with the storm as with brayden torpy (villa) and ionas brannah corcoran with the broncos

 

[xxxx]

villa vs eddies
eddies 47 villa 5
result is what many expected but not the game
played on a very heavy pitch, strange game, villa spent 70-80% of the game camp in eddies 22, but just could not convert pressure into points.
When eddies did manage to get the ball they score, via some great straight running and excellent support play.
the 2 and 15 standouts players for eddies.
villa to their credit try hard but soft defense in the first half cost them the game.
no doubt eddies are hot favorites for the premiership however certainly not unbeatable, if a team can get into the grind with them and limit the missed tackles, then maybe they won't have it all there own way. from what i seen ashgrove look the kind of team which could get in the grind with eddies. time will tell.

 

[David Connors]

Lauries 25-5 over St. Pats
22-0 at halftime

 

[Havealook]

On the grapevine
Ashgrove 26 St Peters 27 - Ash up 26-15 but Peters came home late
St Laurences 25 St Pats 5

 

[Saints supporter]

The St Peters team yesterday had total belief in themselves to win... 12 of Ashgroves points where lucky at best with a charge down and intercept. Wingers William Duma and Narhyl Bennett dominated the back lines with the Asghrove back line unorganized and unable to control the SPLC Back line at times. Ashgrove forwards where ineffective at the brake down and their boring pick and drive game was the only positive in the Ashgove game.
The fact at here was more supporters from St Peters at Ashgrove than the home team shows alot. Bring on next week at St Peters against Iona I am sure the house full sign will be hung out. It will be interesting to see some of the tipsters and their selections for AIC 1and 2 teams now with the front row of the Saints dominating a very inept display from Ashgrove.

 

[The G-Man]

The St Peters team yesterday had total belief in themselves to win... 12 of Ashgroves points where lucky at best with a charge down and intercept. Wingers William Duma and Narhyl Bennett dominated the back lines with the Asghrove back line unorganized and unable to control the SPLC Back line at times. Ashgrove forwards where ineffective at the brake down and their boring pick and drive game was the only positive in the Ashgove game.
The fact at here was more supporters from St Peters at Ashgrove than the home team shows alot. Bring on next week at St Peters against Iona I am sure the house full sign will be hung out. It will be interesting to see some of the tipsters and their selections for AIC 1and 2 teams now with the front row of the Saints dominating a very inept display from Ashgrove.

Caltris, you’re definitely a very passionate St Peters supporter, not such a great speller though. Is William Duma the 11 or 14? Because I think the 11 should be strongly considered for the AIC team, he is a big bustling and exciting winger. I have not seen a winger like that since Jonah Lomu graced the paddock in the 90’s. Im wondering if you and I were watching the same game! as the marist forwards did, what good marist forwards do and played outstanding structured play. It is to the credit of the St Peters forward pack that they matched this level of structure/enthusiasm in order to utilize their backs. I would hardly call the marist tries lucky as rugby is not a game of luck, they capitalised on poor mistakes from peters, but once again to the credit of the peters boys they fought back and showed great resilience. St Peters definitely deserved that win, there are no doubts about that. I think its very important that the good folks over at peters don’t get too carried away, its clear they have improved out of sight and are going really well, but the gee-up-ery of above will do them no good, instead a calm approach is better for the kids.

 

[Saints supporter]

Caltris you summarised that perfectly! To say that was one of the most intense games that I have ever seen is an understatement. The Saints players and supporters never gave up, to pull back in the last 10 mins and score two tries and win by one point was amazing! So many believed it was a given that Ashgrove would win, given that they haven't lost a home game in some time and they have never lost to the Saints, goes to show how amazing this win was. Yes the next few games will be well supported but the big game will now be the Saints vs St Eddies at St Peters in early June.....

 

[Saints supporter]

Villa vs Eddies: Villa by 3
Lauries vs Pats: Pats by 12
Padua vs Iona: Iona by 15+
Ashgrove vs Peters: Ashgrove by 13

correction actual results: Ashgrove 26 St Peters 27.....

 

[Ewen.M]

correction actual results: Ashgrove 26 St Peters 27.....

Have your glory while it last mate, we all know how much 'hard work' you guys put into it. At least Ashgrove can have pride in knowing they don't have to pay for their players. No wonder Peters school fees are so high, they have to get all of that money from somewhere

 

[Random guy]

Villa vs Eddies scoreline is not at all a reflection of the game. Villa's forwards were better in the rucks all day even though eddies were bigger villa just had the ability to steal the ball and dominate the breakdown. Possession was dominated by villa and most of the game was spent inside Eddies 22. However the backs were a different story and the great skill shown by eddies backs in fast-paced running rugby was impossible to stop with the first-up tackles being the real let-down for villa on the day. I suspect a strong defensive team such as maybe Ashgrove (?) may be able to shut down this back-line and dominate through the forwards. Eddies tackling was very strong which is an obvious reflection of their predominantly league background while their scrum and lineout were sub-par with villa taking a few tight-head scrum wins and winning more of eddies lineouts than they did. Overall a scoreline which did not reflect quality of game but a very big congratulations to the Eddies backline for what was a clinical display of running rugby.

 

[RedsFanBase]

A very close game between Peters and Ashgrove. The result could have gone either way. Ashgrove forwards were stronger and more physical at the break anddown, however Peter's very fast and talented backline looked the goods over Ashgrove all day, and it was eventually the deciding factor of the game. The 11 for Peters had another very strong game, scoring 2 tries with his size and speed and giving the last pass in another, while the Ashgrove 10 played quite well. It should be a very interesting season from here on in.