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Adam Freier - appears to have good propects for a journo career

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TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
Blue said:
Well that's it. Alcohol makes it even worse so I don't drink anything.

Thats one thats always intrigued me. An oft quoted statement and one followed diligently my a number of my colleagues and fellow travellers. I on the other hand think that if you are going to be farked at the other end, you might as well enjoy the experience of getting there and therefore chose to imbibe plenty of whatever is the beverage de jour. A bit of a catnap and a stumble off the plane, a snooze and I'm feeling just as good as the teetotallers.

And this is just on the Syd-Mel shuttle :lmao:
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
I'm with Riddler, I like to combine jet lag with a hangover, and what's more it's free!
 
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CanadianRugby

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Have been to La Paz once, altitude made me feel like I was hungover even without the drinking...can't imagine drinking as well.

On the other hand, drinking at altitude, once you've landed.....excellent.
 

the gambler

Dave Cowper (27)
He has obviously been spending too much time with the rest of the Journos. Did anyone else notice him try to say that Alexander played the whole year at Tighthead. Are we blaming him for this or an editor?

By the way I like the spelling mistake in the title of this thread. Very appropriate.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Growden must be looking over his shoulder

Look after the grassroots and the game will thrive
ADAM FREIER
July 18, 2010

Comments 3

As the sun sets on a cool winter's day at Coogee Oval, a crowd of rugby enthusiasts gather to watch two of Sydney's finest do battle for the heavily weighted plank of hardwood covered in stainless steel that is known to all rugby tribes as the Shute Shield.

The TV crew has arrived, not decked in fancy suits with celebrity commentators, but with polar fleece, Kelly Country and equipment from That 70's Show. No 12-month subscription required - the game is free on our beloved and loyal rugby network, the ABC.

The price of admission is $15, beers are $4 and a burger decked with sausage, bacon, egg and onion is great value at $5. But the real value isn't in the dollar-per-calorie snack - it's in the 80 minutes of entertainment on the field.

The teams are stacked with Wallabies talent, with players not turning out for match practice or to impress selectors but to play park rugby for the absolute love of the game.

Good, honest rugby in your own backyard. Getting vocal at your local. Could it be any better? Well, quite simply, yes.

All sports have supporters, and rugby is no different from AFL and no ''more better'' than rugby league. But where we need to draw closer to Australia's other great winter codes is in the number of fanatics. And club rugby is the breeding ground for our most loyal and passionate fans.

From NSW Country to Subbies and across to Bayswater in Perth, the people who play and support the game for nothing but love are what helps it stay buoyant.

All current players hear the same old story from the players of yesteryear: "Back in my day, we never got paid and we made the Wallabies from our club side." But in today's climate, with sport more an entertainment brand, each club's best are filtered out of their team, which is left standing, grasping for that talent. Yet still the fans come out in droves.

Some say the NRL is bulletproof, with player behaviour and salary caps, but the argument can have the same weight in club rugby. In 1996, rugby became professional and clubs that produced great players were discriminated against as they had to devote their time and skill to their employer, News Limited. Worse still, clubs with full-time Wallabies would never see a player in the beloved district strip.

George Gregan was a Randwick player who played only a few games for his club. No disrespect to Greegs - there just wasn't the protocol or time.

Then the Eddie Jones era began, and Mat Rogers and his fellow Wallabies thought that a day in camp would be far more beneficial then a game of club footy. What message did that send to the kid at Penrith who might have had the opportunity to see Wendell Sailor in his prime play against the Emus at Nepean Rugby Park but couldn't because Wendell was training?

Then the ARC came along and formed a new brand of rugby that gave our game four tiers of competition. From club to ARC, to state to country, unlike any sport in the world. It lasted one season.

Surely the battering and pilfering would see a group of non-profiting clubs fall away or merge to stay afloat. But they hung on for dear life and marched forward. Never have I seen a game with such resilience and support. By no means is this all one person's doing.

We haven't helped the cause, either, by having a window or decision to make once a player has played 30 games in a calendar year. But no player would argue that the games are a worry; it's the hours spent on the training paddock that are a concern.

Throughout rugby's professional era we may have lost and gained fans and corporate dollars, but one thing that has been immune to the crush of professionalism is the support and tribalism of club rugby.

Where is rugby in Australia at present? The easiest way to measure it is by checking where the Wallabies sit on the IRB world rankings. But the grassroots should be given almost the same weight.

Don't measure the success of our game by the performance of the Wallabies against the All Blacks or Springboks, but look at it from a "game of rugby" point of view internally. Robbie may not have delivered any trophies yet, but what he has done is ensured that players want to - instead of have to - play, and that is measured by the people who turn out for their club.


Each week in camp, Robbie will get each player to stand up in the team meeting to tell the group of how he played for his club in the week. It gives them credibility.

It also makes players interact and feel like stakeholders and ensures that we recognise the true fans. We must never take for granted the people who volunteer their time and effort in our local clubs.

Interesting point of view from one of our best rugby writers
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
It was a good article and I agree with him about Deans pushing the players to turn out for their club teams. I'm not sure how much or little of it has gone on before his time, but I'm glad that it happens all the same.
 
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chief

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Shute Shield matches cost to enter? Great article though and he raises a valid point. Western Sydney youngsters would relish the opportunity to see the likes of Wendell Sailor play at their local club. Would do wonders for Penrith to have that especially that Penrith is smack bang in League heartland.
 

topo

Cyril Towers (30)
Shute Shield matches cost to enter? Great article though and he raises a valid point. Western Sydney youngsters would relish the opportunity to see the likes of Wendell Sailor play at their local club. Would do wonders for Penrith to have that especially that Penrith is smack bang in League heartland.

$15. And a bargain at that for mine. Cheaper still if you are a member of one of the clubs and get free entry to home games.
 

Nusadan

Chilla Wilson (44)
Went to a Division 3 game in England once, and the entry was 12 quid, that's around 20 Oz bucks...
 

Thin Thighs

Ted Fahey (11)
$15. And a bargain at that for mine. Cheaper still if you are a member of one of the clubs and get free entry to home games.

And nearly all of that money goes straight back into fertilizing the grass roots of our game, unlike S14 and Test gate revenues.

At Coogee Oval, Junior clubs run the canteen and BBQ and every cent of profit from the $4 per beer and $5 works burger, loved by Adam F, goes back to the kids. Even more fertilizer lower down in the grass roots.

Bravo to Randwick Rugby, as I believe this concession for the Juniors is not the case with all Clubs.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
This talk about the grass roots is absolutely true. My boy plays Auskick (no panic folks, there is still time to turn him into a Wallaby) and they had their district day yesterday at the local WAFL club (Perth). To see the huge collection of salt-of-the-earth footy types at the grade games was fantastic and the kids loved it. I'll admit to being a bit guilty of being an apostate club rugby guy for a long time, but I intend to change that. I'm joining the past players group of my beloved University club and I'll get down to the club most local to me (Palmyra) to watch a few games I reckon. Seeing the Shute Shield games on telly has really reminded me of what I love about the game and its ethos.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
My boy plays Auskick (no panic folks, there is still time to turn him into a Wallaby) and they had their district day yesterday at the local WAFL club (Perth).

Get some rugby into him! As a Melbournian, I'm jealous of the Junior and Senior structure/participation in Perth. Especially since it is a much smaller city.

Let's hope the Rebels does to Vic grass-routes what the Force did for Perth.
 

TheRiddler

Dave Cowper (27)
Does Frier read GAGR as well?

From today's Sun Herald

Adam Frier said:
How quickly things can change. After an emphatic win against the Springboks in Brisbane, Robbie Deans was hailed as a master coach who showed us all the fruits of his youth policy, with a standout performance from all players, young and old.

And now we should sack him?

Every person on the planet has the right to his or her opinion but lately some are using them as headline-grabbers rather then providing actual solutions.

The Pauline Hanson style of comment wears thin on us all but please, I urge you all, read through the rubbish. We don't need a new coach or new players.

There is talk of problems in the Wallabies camp. But imagine if the door was left open for Robbie to return to New Zealand and take his knowledge with him. Now that would be a problem.

When has a rugby team in Australia ever persisted with a coach?

Ewen McKenzie at the Waratahs, David Nucifora to Laurie Fisher to Andy Friend at the Brumbies - and the merry-go-round at the Reds.

More than ever, this trend needs to change. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater would be the last thing on the agenda for our game's leading team.

How is it entirely a coach's or player's fault when the ball bounces awry or a referee's interpretation goes against your team?

In past two turbulent months of the Wallabies, the common theme has been agonisingly close matches.

The past two matches have definitely been ones that got away - there were so many opportunities to win each game. There is no need to unduly apply the blowtorch to the team or the staff. They already do that themselves.

Twenty years ago, when the Wallabies were in a rut, there were no blogs, internet or 24-hour sports news channels. Yet some rugby experts say, "This is the worst Wallabies team ever." It's probably the most debated topic because there are so many avenues for criticism.

Today we can just log in, disguised as "Mr Rugby Grump", and tear strips off players and coaches.

Every hit, no matter how small, starts to form a crack - we are lucky that the team has held it together for this amount of time.

The over-analysis of our coaches, players and young Wallabies is quite remarkable and sometimes even personal.

Taking out a coach is only one piece to a massive puzzle, which Australia is starting to put back together ever so slowly.

The picture will be beautiful but we need to make sure that the game is healthy everywhere, from our Wallabies to Wallaroos, from Sevens to Subbies. Concentrating on one team isn't the way we will bring back Bill, again and again.

Deans is a coach and is passionate about all things rugby.

He will lead us to the next World Cup; there is no doubt in my mind. He is a coach that shares in all the players' highs and lows. All who doubt him and criticise him are very game to think that there is a better solution out there.

I am reassured by the fact that I know what's to come, that the injured players will heal.

I am comforted by the fact that there is now an internationally experienced playing roster three deep for nearly every position, including the front row.

Patience is a hard thing to ask for at this point. The resilient followers of our great code are some of the most passionate and loyal sporting fans we could ask for, so I urge you, sit tight, ride this out. The Wallaby ship is on course.

Deans hasn't forgotten how to be a great coach.

Note the comments in bold. What on earth could he possibly be referring to?
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
More like who?
Take your pick, we have plenty here. And I might add, they are all entitled to their opinion, just as is Adam in print.
But he makes a good point - nothing escapes the critical eye these days.
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
And he was very good on the rugby club this week. I particularly enjoyed his sledging with Sharpie
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Morgan Turinui had a short stint circa RWC 07 that showed he's quite a gifted writer and analyst of the game.

The sooner Growden goes, the better.

Adam's writing is a breath of fresh ait. Fuck I hate Growden the fat knob..

AF is showing himself to be a real asset to our game.

Another educated front row piggie. Another one for the "Front Rowers are over represented in Media" Club.

Is this is why mr Growden eats all the pies - to try to look like a retired front rower and thus have some credibility.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
Fans must know: Deans is a coach for all seasons
Adam Freier
September 5, 2010

How quickly things can change. After an emphatic win against the Springboks in Brisbane, Robbie Deans was hailed as a master coach who showed us all the fruits of his youth policy, with a standout performance from all players, young and old.

And now we should sack him?

Every person on the planet has the right to his or her opinion but lately some are using them as headline-grabbers rather then providing actual solutions.

The Pauline Hanson style of comment wears thin on us all but please, I urge you all, read through the rubbish. We don't need a new coach or new players.

There is talk of problems in the Wallabies camp. But imagine if the door was left open for Robbie to return to New Zealand and take his knowledge with him. Now that would be a problem.

When has a rugby team in Australia ever persisted with a coach?

Ewen McKenzie at the Waratahs, David Nucifora to Laurie Fisher to Andy Friend at the Brumbies - and the merry-go-round at the Reds.

More than ever, this trend needs to change. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater would be the last thing on the agenda for our game's leading team.

How is it entirely a coach's or player's fault when the ball bounces awry or a referee's interpretation goes against your team?

In past two turbulent months of the Wallabies, the common theme has been agonisingly close matches.

The past two matches have definitely been ones that got away - there were so many opportunities to win each game. There is no need to unduly apply the blowtorch to the team or the staff. They already do that themselves.

Twenty years ago, when the Wallabies were in a rut, there were no blogs, internet or 24-hour sports news channels. Yet some rugby experts say, "This is the worst Wallabies team ever." It's probably the most debated topic because there are so many avenues for criticism.

Today we can just log in, disguised as "Mr Rugby Grump", and tear strips off players and coaches.

Every hit, no matter how small, starts to form a crack - we are lucky that the team has held it together for this amount of time.

The over-analysis of our coaches, players and young Wallabies is quite remarkable and sometimes even personal.

Taking out a coach is only one piece to a massive puzzle, which Australia is starting to put back together ever so slowly.

The picture will be beautiful but we need to make sure that the game is healthy everywhere, from our Wallabies to Wallaroos, from Sevens to Subbies. Concentrating on one team isn't the way we will bring back Bill, again and again.

Deans is a coach and is passionate about all things rugby.

He will lead us to the next World Cup; there is no doubt in my mind. He is a coach that shares in all the players' highs and lows. All who doubt him and criticise him are very game to think that there is a better solution out there.

I am reassured by the fact that I know what's to come, that the injured players will heal.

I am comforted by the fact that there is now an internationally experienced playing roster three deep for nearly every position, including the front row.

Patience is a hard thing to ask for at this point. The resilient followers of our great code are some of the most passionate and loyal sporting fans we could ask for, so I urge you, sit tight, ride this out. The Wallaby ship is on course.

Deans hasn't forgotten how to be a great coach.
 
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