3rd tier is back in 2014 [Discontinued]
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Train Without a Station
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You have to just consider even if what I said is the case, it's a necessary evil. Anyway I'm sure the Brumbies would offset that by their allocations of their players to clubs also. If Vikings were too strong I'm sure they would look at not allocating any contracted players too them for JID.
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Interesting stuff.
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
The ARU will mandate that every available Super Rugby player not representing the Wallabies must play in the NRC. It is understood each NRC squad will be "given" about 15 Super Rugby players, with the remainder of the squad to be filled by emerging club players.
That means the Rebels, who could conceivably be left with a squad of 25 or more after losing their Test players, could send 15 to play in the Melbourne-based NRC team, while the remaining players will be split up between the Sydney NRC teams.
The Breakdown understands both the Rebels and the Force are fighting to keep all of their squad members, an understandable standpoint for two franchises trying to deepen their community roots, not spread them more thinly.
Common sense.
That means the Rebels, who could conceivably be left with a squad of 25 or more after losing their Test players, could send 15 to play in the Melbourne-based NRC team, while the remaining players will be split up between the Sydney NRC teams.
The Breakdown understands both the Rebels and the Force are fighting to keep all of their squad members, an understandable standpoint for two franchises trying to deepen their community roots, not spread them more thinly.
Common sense.
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John Thornett (49)
A Queensland country and a greater Brisbane?
That country team will be weak.
From a Queensland perspective this set up looks shit, as the greater Brisbane team will just be Reds and WTS players,giving Premier players little chance to play.
That country team will be weak.
From a Queensland perspective this set up looks shit, as the greater Brisbane team will just be Reds and WTS players,giving Premier players little chance to play.
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I really don't see all this love for "country" teams. Like in an idealistic way, yes it's great. NSW and QLD Country have long proud histories.
But from a commercial perspective they make zero sense. The represent far too sparsely populated areas to bring in crowds, sponsorship, etc. and be as effective as a city based team.
Then there is the likelihood of them playing out of Bond Uni... Nothing says dinky di, true blue, rough and tumble country... as being somehow aligned with Australia's only private university whose enrolments are majority international students, or ex Sydney GPS students...
Would have much preferred the Red's divided there teams in 2, based on the North and South Prems teams.
But from a commercial perspective they make zero sense. The represent far too sparsely populated areas to bring in crowds, sponsorship, etc. and be as effective as a city based team.
Then there is the likelihood of them playing out of Bond Uni... Nothing says dinky di, true blue, rough and tumble country... as being somehow aligned with Australia's only private university whose enrolments are majority international students, or ex Sydney GPS students...
Would have much preferred the Red's divided there teams in 2, based on the North and South Prems teams.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Is there not a hearts and minds aspect to it?
We are on a religious crusade to spread the word of the game they play in heaven.
We are on a religious crusade to spread the word of the game they play in heaven.
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
Brisbane is basically a country town isn't it?
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Charlie Fox (21)
Yes we are on a crusade to spread the word but if you turn up to the walls of the citidel wth little more than a sharp butter knife you won't make much headway.
The commercial reality of Rugby's niche status has been ignored for too long. Pursue idealism by all means. But do it AFTER there is money in the bank.
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I agree RC. It's my view that a team representing a wider region of less populated towns has less chance of success financially than representing a densely populated city.
The ARU cannot afford to subsidise any teams as part of a strategic approach right now, like the AFL have done with GC and GWS.
The ARU cannot afford to subsidise any teams as part of a strategic approach right now, like the AFL have done with GC and GWS.
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Ron Walden (29)
If you think country teams don't work have a look at a lot of the season ticket holders for the NQ Cowboys. Members travel hours every second week to Townsville religously. This is for a created team that had no 'brand' or traditional background.
They are financially sound and backed by wealth from the country. Don't knock the regional models.
They are financially sound and backed by wealth from the country. Don't knock the regional models.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
this is still all very speculative.
the ONLY certainties are teams from melbourne, perth, canberra and two from queensland. the actual makeup and playing personnel is probably a long way off being settled. i don't know the SS well enough to give an accurate appraisal but can sydney/nsw really sustain 5 teams, i'm talking financing not playing numbers
the ONLY certainties are teams from melbourne, perth, canberra and two from queensland. the actual makeup and playing personnel is probably a long way off being settled. i don't know the SS well enough to give an accurate appraisal but can sydney/nsw really sustain 5 teams, i'm talking financing not playing numbers
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David Codey (61)
I tend to feel that players from area's should represent that area, eg if Im a club man in Canberra then I have the chance to play for the Canberra NRC team if Im good enough to be selected. Now if I feel I can't make it and I need to go to NSW Country to get a gig then I find a club there I play there and I build there comp's and make my name a different way. I know initially Melbourne maybe strong as they have 25 Super Players. But doesn't it make more sense to play where my club team is then to say fly me to Country QLD where I dont want to be so I get a gig (Obviously at the ARU expense).
Yes this may force Sydney Teams to be weaker initially as there is more teams less players but it would even out.
Only issue I really see is say the Brumbies\Rebels force there players to play locally. So in turn would need to turn out for the NRC team locally. Unless you have a 5 player limit on people from not your area.
But it's sounding good at the moment, I will be tuning in to watch
Yes this may force Sydney Teams to be weaker initially as there is more teams less players but it would even out.
Only issue I really see is say the Brumbies\Rebels force there players to play locally. So in turn would need to turn out for the NRC team locally. Unless you have a 5 player limit on people from not your area.
But it's sounding good at the moment, I will be tuning in to watch
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
Good point, quite possibly if you look at all the players as a whole that have graduated through the SS into Super Rugby.
With regards to financing - I also think this is possible with the rights structure and following.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
If the Canberra, Melbourne and Perth teams are being run by their respective Super Rugby organisations then it would be a little absurd to release players contracted to them to play in opposing teams..........
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