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3rd Place Play Off - Wallabies v Wales.

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Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
A good game considering the motivation, despite what some say, wasn't quite as high. Fair play to both teams for trying to have a go and especially to Wales for that mammoth 30+ phase effort towards the end when Leigh Halfpenny scored his try.

Once again a good game was marred by inept refereeing and I'm not sure it can go on much longer with these alleged professional referees allowed to ruin the biggest tournament in Rugby. I have some 'on the fence' friends curious at what this Rugby caper is about, and they are questioning whether to continue their interest if this rubbish persists. How Barnes, and Poite for that matter, missed the forward pass for Williams' try and then called the one from O'Connor moments later is ridiculous. There needs to be transparency from the IRB and explain in person, not via some BS media release, why or why not certain referees have been appointed to matches.

Now on to the match itself. Obviously the injuries played their part, but I particularly liked the way Berrick Barnes went about his work. It is a case for Robbie of 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' on his non selection in the semi-final.
Tatafu Polota-Nau needs to be a bit more careful if he wants to continue his career because his kamikaze style tackling, whilst spectacular is going to bring about an early end if one goes horribly wrong in the future and we need to have a solid backup to Stephen Moore.

David Pocock was at his usual best, so I don't think much more needs to be said there.

Nathan Sharpe showed real passion in his 100th match and carried on even after suffering that knee injury and it just proves what commitment the man has and there should be more like him.

I though the rest of the backs were ok, without being too flashy. One thing that concerns me is Adam Ashley-Coopers lack of passing when he get's in certain situations on the field. Not only have I noticed this at Test level, but also at SupeRugby level. The one time he didn't need to pass, it got knocked out of his hand and could have been quite embarrassing. The outside backs are being wasted and I think Digby Ioane was an innocent victim of all this. I even agreed with Phil Kearns when he said to give it to Digby, and I don't normally agree with Kearns!

Even though we didn't make the Final, 3rd is nothing to sneeze at, especially if it means finishing higher than England and South Africa....
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Incidentally, thought toby did ok but think Lydiate really does need to play with warburton. Mongo looked, well like Mongo when he came on, but strangely think the substitution worked well. Also thouhgt Wellies looked better once Brynmor's Boy was on. But Dai, tell me this. What the F@ck is the point in kicking up and unders all day? At best they are 50-50, at worst we give away the ball. It's like when after 30+ phases Ickle decided to go for a drop goal??? FFS how many has he scored in his long and illustrious career?

I am sorry but without your captain and new 10 you lot look to have no plan.

You SERIOUSLY need to put Hook and Jones out to pasture. They do nothing but fuck up your game for everyone else.

Contrast to the Welsh team we saw early on in the Cup was huge.

At least you know Faletau is not a 7...

Warburton and Priestland are THE business. Their absence showed that.
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
I am sorry but without your captain and new 10 you lot look to have no plan.

You SERIOUSLY need to put Hook and Jones out to pasture. They do nothing but fuck up your game for everyone else.

Contrast to the Welsh team we saw early on in the Cup was huge.

At least you know Faletau is not a 7...

Warburton and Priestland are THE business. Their absence showed that.

think we just agreed Blue! Don't know what's gone wrong with Hook but someone here said his versatility has ruined him to the point he doesn't play any position well. Neither australia nor Wales had sufficient cover for openside flanker, but I guess choices had to be made with a squad of just 30. I agree, wales without capt sam looked clueless and we need to have a backup international std 10. At the moment we don't

BTW, are South Africa touring this NH Winter?
 
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pete88

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We have Beau Robinson and Liam Gill covering 7, both are good now, and could be very good in the future. Robbie, in his infinite wisdom, didn't pick either. I don't know about Welsh opsnide stocks, but we actually do have cover at 7, even if it isn't in Pocock's league.

Hook surprised me with his shitness today, or at least the 20minutes I saw of him (missed the opening quarter). I always thought he was a cool head. Maybe he's lost his confidence after losing his starting spots, or being played in 3 different positions has screwed him as you say. He's still fairly young though isn't he? Talking of pastures is a bit premature I think.
 

RedCard

Peter Burge (5)
Well done Oz, a deserved win. They looked hungrier than Wales although not a great game. It looked exactly what it was...... a game neither wanted to be in this time last week.

It was certainly Wales' worst performance of the RWC but looking forward to our future match ups both in Dec then June. Both teams have a lot of improvement in them after this RWC so should be good times for both hopefully. It'll be nice to see the gap closed with NZ who set the benchmark.
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
Time to move on and throw support behind the Darkness. Was speaking to a bookie friend of mine tonight, apparently several of his competitors have already paid out on NZ win!
 
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DJC

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Don't agree, I thought Jenkins held his end up very well, It was your loose head that did the damage, Jenkins was penalised unfairly on some occasions, your TH went down and Jenkins was pinged for it, Just an observation DJC

No problems, I'll concede that Paul James was the cause of the instability but at least Ma'afu didn't get done like a kipper. I have to front up in Cardiff on Monday so I can't be too parochical.
 

Dai bando

Charlie Fox (21)
Incidentally, thought toby did ok but think Lydiate really does need to play with warburton. Mongo looked, well like Mongo when he came on, but strangely think the substitution worked well. Also thouhgt Wellies looked better once Brynmor's Boy was on. But Dai, tell me this. What the F@ck is the point in kicking up and unders all day? At best they are 50-50, at worst we give away the ball. It's like when after 30+ phases Ickle decided to go for a drop goal??? FFS how many has he scored in his long and illustrious career?
:) yep we need to know how to manage a game. rabbit in the headlights comes to mind, as I mentioned earlier we need to control tight games, I also think we have a good 15 but 3-4 injuries and we suffer, do we have the structure back home to put it right, i wonder.
 

stonecutter

Chris McKivat (8)
Got some answers tonight for the future.

1. Higginbotham should now be the 1st choice no6.
2. Barnes needs to be in the starting team
3. Slipper is a loose head prop not a THP
4. Mcalman to be persevered with (but needs to alter his running height) until a new no8 is found
5. Alexander to be scrapheaped permanently
6. A back up no9 needs to be found
7. Horne at no13
8.No more muppets from the NH to ref a WC final of any description again
 

Bardon

Peter Fenwicke (45)
It's like when after 30+ phases Ickle decided to go for a drop goal??? FFS how many has he scored in his long and illustrious career?

I think Williams going for the drop goal was more in frustration as they were looking for Jones to drop into the pocket for the drop goal attempt and once again he hid. It looked like more of a ffs if you wont try it I will rather than him being the best player to take it on.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
You don't try to develop a future backup at a RWC. One of the two will surely be on the touring squad though.

does that mean Phipps is a future starter?
robinson should have gone - I like the cut of his jib and reckon that blokes who work as hard as he does lift a team generally
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
Got some answers tonight for the future.

1. Higginbotham should now be the 1st choice no6.
2. Barnes needs to be in the starting team
3. Slipper is a loose head prop not a THP
4. Mcalman to be persevered with (but needs to alter his running height) until a new no8 is found
5. Alexander to be scrapheaped permanently
6. A back up no9 needs to be found
7. Horne at no13
8.No more muppets from the NH to ref a WC final of any description again

1. Yeah probably, but I don't think he is as far ahead of Rocky as some are making out.
2. Yes, but at 12 not 10. He stands too deep for my liking at 10.
5. Why? He has been pretty good all tournament, and it's not like we have heaps of good props just lying around.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
so he's developed?

Stats:
Total minutes played: 26
Matches played: 1
Average tackles made per match: 2.0
Average line breaks per match: -
Average offloads per match: -
Penalty goal success rate: -
Conversion success rate: -

1 eoyt, one midweek bench game
 

Baldric

Jim Clark (26)
One of the Barnes boys needs to be there and the other needs to be sent to play in the sandpit and left there.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
Re Phipps, we needed to take a third halfback. It is a highly specialised position and we couldn't risk being caught short if Genia or Burgo went down. The fact that he played very few minutes should be seen as a positive as it meant Genia and Burgo steered clear of the hospital ward.

The second openside should have been taken in place of Palu or McCalman, not Phipps.
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
I stand by saying Lucas should of been selected over Phipps as the third half back. I can guarentee he would of gotten a lot more game time.
 
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Muttonbird

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The Kiwis don't have the maturity to host another RWC..... I have refrained from using basic language on this forum, however, sadly they are behaving like arseholes.... emiting nothing but shit! Let's all stop buying Kiwi products!

:lmao:Go down the shops and buy yourself a pair of nuts, your voice is squeaking.
 

Joe Blow

Peter Sullivan (51)
Got some answers tonight for the future.

1. Higginbotham should now be the 1st choice no6.
2. Barnes needs to be in the starting team
3. Slipper is a loose head prop not a THP
4. Mcalman to be persevered with (but needs to alter his running height) until a new no8 is found
5. Alexander to be scrapheaped permanently
6. A back up no9 needs to be found
7. Horne at no13
8.No more muppets from the NH to ref a WC final of any description again

1. I think it is his time but he still needs to tighten up his game. If Palu is at 8 and Pocock at 7 it makes a pretty impressive backrow.
2.Yes.
3.Always was but Deans tried to create some THs to play with Fat Cat at LH.
4.Palu is the answer at 8 if fit and there are some good young options coming through.
5. He is a great utility prop who can play both sides and create something in the loose. His best is ahead of him.
6. Burgess is a big loss.
7. Probably, or at 12 with AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) at 13. Looks like QC (Quade Cooper) will be out for some time.
8. They are not much worse than the SH muppets.

Well done Nathan Sharpe!
 
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