2024 Under 20 Rugby Champs all match discussion thread

[Strewthcobber]

To be fair to the Irish, it's what the laws of the game instruct them to do.

The tournament is compromised enough as it is with 3 pools. Stuff like this just adds to the farce

 

[Homer]

I believe we were no chance anyway as the French for/against was far superior to ours. We would've had to beat Ireland by 35 I think.
The NZ Spain game was called at half time as well. On the upside the Saffers didn't progress and we get a game against Wales.

 

[Strewthcobber]

We would have gone through as top of Pool B in place of Ireland if we had beaten them

 

[moa999]

Ireland had better points difference, so think we would have needed to win by more than 7 and deny them the bonus point (and score four tries if they did)

But yes finishing top of group means the PD v France wouldn't have mattered.

Edit.. Head to head per below first tie breaker, so a win would almost have guaranteed progression.
But we would have needed to say avoid a 21-20 win (3 tries to 4) which would have left Ireland on 10 points and us on 9.

 

[Highlander35]

Head to Head is first tiebreaker

 

[Wilson]

First tie break in the under 20s is head to head result, points difference comes in afterwards.

 

[Homer]

I'm not a smart man.

 

[Cockatoo Run]

RA launch appeal as mud sticks for Junior Wallabies after Ireland washout

Australia’s young stars were denied their shout at a place in the world championship finals when a game was cancelled due to a muddy pitch. Two games were later played on the same field.

www.smh.com.au

Peter Horne from Rugby Australia has formally appealed the decision to abandon the game due to process not being followed in the decision to cancel the game, and is requesting the game be held today.

I'm sure World Rugby's formal letter of response will arrive in the mail the day after the final.

 

[BobbyD]

Wasn't Peter Horne's old job to write the rules for World Rugby? If anyone knows they weren't followed it'd be him.

Nice sentiment, but Buckley's of getting a favourable response.

 

[stillmissit]

Would be a must watch if it happens - close to zero be my guess.

 

[Bullrush]

Did anyone from WR (World Rugby) see the U20s RC?!

A game cancelled by rain is pretty pathetic.

 

[drewprint]

Particularly when other games went ahead on that field an hour later. The whole thing stinks of gamesmanship.

 

[KOB1987]

I would say that if Horne is suggesting the process was wrong he is probably correct. Whether World Rugby take any notice of that is a different matter.

 

[Steve_Grey]

2 more than we could have expected tbh

If we had beaten Italy (I think) this would be moot - as it is, I think we are lucky that Georgia beat Italy or we would be playing to avoid relegation to the Trophy.

As mentioned by someone earlier - you have to win your games against weaker sides, or risk the consequences; Ireland beat Italy and Georgia beat Italy - now Italy and Georgia are playing for their lifeline in this competition.

 

[Wilson]

RA's appeal has been denied:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811196990677713389

 

[Bullrush]

That sucks.

I wonder how many top level games are ever abandoned due to rain every year?

 

[KOB1987]

I’d say 1

 

[Highlander35]

back in 15/16 Glasgow had to rearrange or relocate 4 Pro 12 fixtures due to issues with Drainage at Scotstoun (prior to the installation of the new artificial turf).

Obviously the way the league is set up allows for that given the number of "off weeks" etc. Not quite the case in a short form tournament.

 

[Rudderless]

Surely at this WC pinnacle, the Aust v Ireland game that was to be played Tues night (10pm AEST) could have been postponed 24/48 hours seeing as thou the next round of games (Semi Finals) don't kick off until Sun night/Mon morning.


Semi Finals (AEST)


This Sunday 14th

- Italy v Spain 10pm (9th Place)

- Argentina v South Africa 10pm (5th Place)


Monday 15th

- Georgia v Fiji 12.30am (9th Place)

- England v Ireland 12.30am (Semi-final 1)

- Australia v Wales 3am (5th Place)

- New Zealand v France 3am (Semi-final 2)

 

[LeCheese]

Yeah, the decision to rule the pitch unsafe is understandable within the tournament director's duty of care; the decision to cancel instead of reschedule the game is the egregious part imo.