2018 TV ratings and crowd numbers
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Peter Johnson (47)
Australian Super Rugby teams sorted by average attendance in 2017
1) Reds (15,115)
2) Waratahs (14,500)
3) Brumbies (9,887) [Raiders averaged 14K in 2017 ]
4) Force (9,520)
5) Rebels (8,446) (based on 3 games - only 3 crowds numbers announced in 2017)
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Simon Poidevin (60)
7,598 in Canberra for Brumbies v Reds
Smallest Oz crowd so far this year (which was announced)
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Smallest Oz crowd so far this year (which was announced)
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Wow, traditionally that's what you'd expect for an SA team in a bad year, and I wonder if that's a record for the lowest crowd against an Australian opposition....... but even the match in Brisbane was less than 10,000 which was unimaginable in previous years.
The average Australian Soup crowds for this season are going to be dire......... although the Rebels might get a slight bump.
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Peter Johnson (47)
Unsurprising. season on a knife edge, unpopular and under performing coach etc etc and none of the changes the public wanted that would turn the tide of most of Canberra's perception of the Brumbies. Losing the Tahs game on the back of earlier losses has most likely has now lost them the crowds for the rest of the season.
The Canberra sporting public is both fickle (win or we walk) and also intolerant of the politics, powers plays and culture when it comes to its sporting teams. Without some more big changes in the management (Boardroom) and coaching set up, as well as the team performing pretty bloody (winning or playing attacking open rugby) sadly the crowds wont improve too much for the foreseeable future.
All that on top of declining crowds due to a poor product.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
13,008 at FMG for Tribe v Bloos.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Gee that is disappointing. Aussie derby, the weather is still okay at this time of year.
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Peter Johnson (47)
@Chronicle - Fixed.
Unsurprising. season on a knife edge as its unlikely we will get to the finals, even beating the Reds is not really much of a victory considering it puts us on par with them, gives us 50% win loss ratio with a far superior roster and still games behind the other two. Unpopular and under performing coach etc etc and none of the changes the public wanted that would turn the tide of most of Canberra's perception of the Brumbies. Losing the Tahs game on the back of earlier losses has most likely has now lost them the crowds for the rest of the season.
The Canberra sporting public is both fickle (win or we walk) and also intolerant of the politics, powers plays and culture when it comes to its sporting teams. Without some more big changes in the management (Boardroom) and coaching set up, as well as the team performing pretty bloody (winning or playing attacking open rugby) sadly the crowds wont improve too much for the foreseeable future. The 40% decline in memberships since 2015, declining walk up crowds, comments on the Brumbies face book page expressing discontent at the teams performance and at the inabilities of the coaching team. Similar comments and commentary on GAGR, and in other forums from both supporters of the Brumbies and others in the Rugby community who believe and warned the appointment of McKellar would see a drop in performance and as a mistake appear to validate the declining numbers. In the absence of other evidence like poor weather or other events to compete with its hard to find other reasons.
All that on top of declining crowds due to a poor product.
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
I make it a point to avoid watching the Brumbies when they play at home but hardly know why. Speight is an exciting player. Kurindrani. They have some munters in the forwards. I dunno. That raw concrete stadium of theirs, somehow it always looks freezing cold and unpleasant for everyone concerned. Maybe it's the low camera angle. Or the history with their boring rolling mauls. Dont mind watching the other Aus sides but Brumbies, at home, not an attractive viewing proposition
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
@MediaweekAUS: #TVratings STV #SuperRugby #FoxSports
Saturday
#BRUvRED 50k
#CHIvBLU 30k
#SUNvWAR 29k
Friday
#HURvSHA 34k
https://t.co/MvWkVgxUEs
For the other sports, Foxfooty channel quietly having the worst ratings I can remember. AFL games rating under 100k!
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Saturday
#BRUvRED 50k
#CHIvBLU 30k
#SUNvWAR 29k
Friday
#HURvSHA 34k
https://t.co/MvWkVgxUEs
For the other sports, Foxfooty channel quietly having the worst ratings I can remember. AFL games rating under 100k!
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wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
This is deeply ironic, considering how wonderful they were in the early days. My wife had never seen top class rugby until we moved back to Australia, she started watching (both club rugby at Eastwood, and SupeRugby) and fell in love with the game in general, and Eastwood and the Brumbies in particular.
We brought her sister out here for a bit of a holiday, she fell in love with Joe Roff!
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Crowds have been in decline for some time.
2004 Reds v Waratahs round match drew 42,237
http://www.austadiums.com/sport/event.php?eventid=1958
2004 Brumbies v Reds round match drew 24, 017
http://www.austadiums.com/sport/event.php?eventid=1945
2004 Waratahs v Brumbies round match drew 37,832
http://www.austadiums.com/sport/event.php?eventid=1951
If I had the time to go through that website for longer we'd see a steady decline from that point, a steep decline during Hickey/Foley, a rise under Cheika (but really only a significant rise in finals games) and a steady decline since. Not sure about other countries, but in the Australian context, SANZAAR are selling a product that fewer and fewer people want to buy. They remind me of a person running a shop selling carbon paper and wondering why people aren't coming in any more.
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Peter Johnson (47)
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Simon Poidevin (60)
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
I'd be interested if membership statistics were avaialble. Anecdotally, I suspect that Waratah memberships are way down over the past 5 years.
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John Solomon (38)
I started the first crowds and tv thread back in 2014, and thought it was bad enough then. The ratings here show that we've had a major recession in Rugby
I can remember when the Friday Night NZ games would regularly hit 90k and the Sat night Tahs/Reds games would hit 180...
In 2011 the Reds were getting 230k a week.
These ratings and crowds are an embarassment, Super Rugby needs a revolution.
EDIT:
I went back and found my original post from 2014. Below is a sample of ratings
Round 2:
Friday: Crusaders v Chiefs 76000
Saturday: Highlanders v Blues 66000
Brumbies v Reds 108000
Sunday: Waratahs v Force 122000
Round 3:
Friday: Blues v Crusaders 63000
Rebels v Cheetahs 108000
Saturday: Chiefs v Highlanders 93000
Waratahs v Reds 150000
This was still not really a strong year for Super Rugby and the ratings blow current ones out of the water
I can remember when the Friday Night NZ games would regularly hit 90k and the Sat night Tahs/Reds games would hit 180...
In 2011 the Reds were getting 230k a week.
These ratings and crowds are an embarassment, Super Rugby needs a revolution.
EDIT:
I went back and found my original post from 2014. Below is a sample of ratings
Round 2:
Friday: Crusaders v Chiefs 76000
Saturday: Highlanders v Blues 66000
Brumbies v Reds 108000
Sunday: Waratahs v Force 122000
Round 3:
Friday: Blues v Crusaders 63000
Rebels v Cheetahs 108000
Saturday: Chiefs v Highlanders 93000
Waratahs v Reds 150000
This was still not really a strong year for Super Rugby and the ratings blow current ones out of the water
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
12,902 at McLean Park for 'canes v Shawks.
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