2017 Under-20 Competitions including Oceania & World U20s

[The Honey Badger]

Someone please confirm but I understand the U20 Word Championship is held annually and next year (2018) is scheduled for Argentina.

So then how does Australia select this team without a U20 tournament?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Someone please confirm but I understand the U20 Word Championship is held annually and next year (2018) is scheduled for Argentina.

So then how does Australia select this team without a U20 tournament?

Depends who is selecting?? Feel sorry for this age group--- the same one in their wisdom the ARU decided to can the Under 16's nationals , only to reinstate a couple of years later.... no wonder we lose players to overseas or simply just give the game away

 

[The Honey Badger]

Assume Cron will be well involved.

 

[Happy to Chat]

Assume Cron will be well involved.

I heard Cron has moved on to an assistant Super Rugby role. U20 comp has been canned for an u19 (NRC type) comp similar to the NZ model.


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[Inside Shoulder]

There are some games being played in September October between Tahs, Brumbies and Rebels which will provide personnel for Oz camps.
Have not heard anything about Reds.
Do not know whether Cron remains involved.

 

[The Honey Badger]

There are some games being played in September October between Tahs, Brumbies and Rebels which will provide personnel for Oz camps.
Have not heard anything about Reds.
Do not know whether Cron remains involved.

The player's seem to think this squad will be only for the School leavers. Not the current U19 crop playing colts.

Pretty sketchy detail for something that will happen in a few weeks

 

[Braveheart81]

Someone please confirm but I understand the U20 Word Championship is held annually and next year (2018) is scheduled for Argentina.

So then how does Australia select this team without a U20 tournament?

They are transitioning to have it six months earlier so they have more preparation time.

 

[The Honey Badger]

I heard Cron has moved on to an assistant Super Rugby role. U20 comp has been canned for an u19 (NRC type) comp similar to the NZ model.


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Still going to need an U20 coach assuming Australia is going to field a side in Argentina.

But I can been trawling various international websites and I can't see definitive confirmation that Argentina is a goer.

Can anyone confirm?

 

[TOCC]

World Rugby won't cut the U20s, it will certainly be a goer for the current RWC cycle.

Any tournament structure which gets the kids playing more consistent game time is a positive outcome.

 

[sidelineview]

It's got me stumped.
There will be a U20s World Championship next year but there wont be an Australian National U20s comp; but instead there will be an U19s comp in preparation for the following year?
Doesnt make a lot of sense ...........
The U20s squad will obviously need to play games in the lead up to the World U20s

 

[The Honey Badger]

Maybe they will just do an Oceania comp as preparation for world Championship.

 

[Braveheart81]

It's got me stumped.
There will be a U20s World Championship next year but there wont be an Australian National U20s comp; but instead there will be an U19s comp in preparation for the following year?
Doesnt make a lot of sense .....
The U20s squad will obviously need to play games in the lead up to the World U20s

The Under 19s comp late in the year is the same group that would make up the under 20s comp early the next year.

 

[Happy to Chat]

It's got me stumped.
There will be a U20s World Championship next year but there wont be an Australian National U20s comp; but instead there will be an U19s comp in preparation for the following year?
Doesnt make a lot of sense .....
The U20s squad will obviously need to play games in the lead up to the World U20s

I've heard, current u20 eligible players will be selected and assemble periodically (camps) through to JRWC and play Oceania Championship but there will be no Super 20's next year.


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[TOCC]

It's got me stumped.
There will be a U20s World Championship next year but there wont be an Australian National U20s comp; but instead there will be an U19s comp in preparation for the following year?
Doesnt make a lot of sense .....
The U20s squad will obviously need to play games in the lead up to the World U20s

It makes perfect sense.. if it were open to U20s then half the players would be too old for the U20s World Championship the following year. Most countries already have similar programs, Australia is just late to the party.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

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The player's seem to think this squad will be only for the School leavers. Not the current U19 crop playing colts.

Pretty sketchy detail for something that will happen in a few weeks

Doubt it. The candidates in that cohort have other commitments.
The players have been told when training is and when the games are.
There was a clear preference this year for second year u20s. It seemed to work better.

 

[The Honey Badger]

I've heard, current u20 eligible players

I take it you mean the 2018 eligible U20 players? Surely

 

[Happy to Chat]

Yes correct


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[TOCC]

I've heard, current u20 eligible players will be selected and assemble periodically (camps) through to JRWC and play Oceania Championship but there will be no Super 20's next year.

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Oceania Championship won't change I imagine, that will be the time for the squad to assemble and train together before the JWC, this is how I see it:

Oct-Nov: Super Rugby U19s tournament
Dec-Jan: select U20s players conduct pre-season with Super Rugby clubs
Feb-Mar: Club Rugby with periodic training camps
Apr: Squad assembles, trial matches and Oceania Championship
May-Jun: JWC

 

[sidelineview]

It makes perfect sense.. if it were open to U20s then half the players would be too old for the U20s World Championship the following year. Most countries already have similar programs, Australia is just late to the party.

OK, but what about the current year, meaning the current U20s players and preparation for the U20s Oceania and World Championships.

 

[sidelineview]

Oceania Championship won't change I imagine, that will be the time for the squad to assemble and train together before the JWC, this is how I see it:

Oct-Nov: Super Rugby U19s tournament
Dec-Jan: select U20s players conduct pre-season with Super Rugby clubs
Feb-Mar: Club Rugby with periodic training camps
Apr: Squad assembles, trial matches and Oceania Championship
May-Jun: JWC

OK, trial matches are played. Seems an inadequate preparation but we'll see how it pans out.