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John Thornett (49)
They've lost interest in Super Rugby like us and they're sick of the Springboks losing.
2017 TV ratings and crowd figures
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KOB1987
John Eales (66)
I don't know if you noticed but they didn't even mention the game was in Melbourne. Considering it was a NSW broadcast those not in the know would have inferred the game was in Sydney.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Whatever, but aren't they nonetheless making a very valid point of reasonable observation: once a national sporting icon that drew large crowds most Test games, the Wallaby brand is now visibly fading away.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
USA v Ireland Test the weekend just gone was I think around 23,000 btw.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
A highly entertaining game as well. USA Rugby is developing well, their improvement in the set piece and other technical aspects is very noticeable. They were let down on more than a few occasions by execution in closing out some very good attack.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Thank you for replying.
I appreciate that your intensely held conviction derives from anecdotes from your immediate circle of friends and contacts.
I offered you evidence from a far broader base of incontestable factual data, all quite or very recent.
Your argument - 'the problem with rugby here is just the rules ' - could solely be validated by proper, wide-span survey research. A sample of (say) 10-20 mates and business contacts is most likely to promote confirmation bias and not verifiable conclusions.
You say above you spend little time here but you post your own central thesis above nearly daily, without concession or compromise to any other point of view or, more importantly, hard large-scale data that is demonstrably real.
My honest suspicion if that you seek to be proven right by mere assertion - in a self-referencing data loop - rather than be seen to be accurate to unbiassed.
Perhaps then the best conciliatory response I can offer you is this: when and if rugby collapses in Australia - and on its present trajectory it likely will in just a few years - without question you will be able to say 'it was all because of the rules' and you'll feel wholly vindicated. Perhaps yours will be the last ever post on GAGR as it finally closes its metaphorical doors.
Irrespective of whether or not you were ever right.
That's a kind of happiness, however limited.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Yes Gnostic. Rugby in the US is developing well.
The Yanks are clearly not as yet deterred by the code's litany of vastly complicated rules that some argue is the core reason for the decline of the code here.
Funny about that - these terrible complexities are not deterring the code's progress in a sporting market whose scale and depth vastly dwarfs anything we possess in Australia.
The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
This in particular gets my goat - how the fuck are you gonna achieve your objective to grow the game when you don't even tell anyone the game is on? Then you act all surprised when the stadium is half-filled because only a few diehards knew the game was on.
It's like they blew their marketing budget on buying the Chardonnay for the St Leonards wine cellar
EDIT: removed bad example
swingpass
Peter Sullivan (51)
to be fair thats exactly what the Rebels did. the local rugby fans knew the game was on, but no one else in Melbourne did. there was minimal MSM coverage and no advertising as such.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Moore Park soon: I don't think there is a cellar. Is that an austerity drive?
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Dick Tooth (41)
There are three general levels of sport, those that play it for fun, those that are paid professionals, and those wanting to join the professional ranks.
Both the professional level and the play for fun rely on each other. The professional level need fans and new players coming through thus in need of the play for fun. Equally the play for fun need the professional level to promote and put forward their game.
We are faced with poor management at both ends. At the professional levels we appear to have a management team in place that relies on the skill of other management teams for their funding.
Our professional management team appear to have no plan “B” so if Super Rugby fails then the professional level has no real structure in place.
The effect at the play for fun level if Super Rugby falls over without adequate plans in place, has the potential to be !@$#!@## who knows but it’s difficult to imagine no effect.
The indecision and present management at the professional level by the ARU today has the potential to do untold damage to rugby. The castle should be stormed by who I don’t know. But a change in direction is needed.
Both the professional level and the play for fun rely on each other. The professional level need fans and new players coming through thus in need of the play for fun. Equally the play for fun need the professional level to promote and put forward their game.
We are faced with poor management at both ends. At the professional levels we appear to have a management team in place that relies on the skill of other management teams for their funding.
Our professional management team appear to have no plan “B” so if Super Rugby fails then the professional level has no real structure in place.
The effect at the play for fun level if Super Rugby falls over without adequate plans in place, has the potential to be !@$#!@## who knows but it’s difficult to imagine no effect.
The indecision and present management at the professional level by the ARU today has the potential to do untold damage to rugby. The castle should be stormed by who I don’t know. But a change in direction is needed.
The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Bad example by me then
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Finally got the Foxtel numbers after the long weekend.
Wallabies v Fiji - 94k
Crusaders v Lions - 89k
Warriors v Cavs - 88k
Wallabies v Fiji - 94k
Crusaders v Lions - 89k
Warriors v Cavs - 88k
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Dick Tooth (41)
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Don't we need 10 as well
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
^^^^^
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
But ok when you combine them.
That crusader v lions figure seems good.
That crusader v lions figure seems good.
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