2013 U18 SA vs England vs France vs Italy

[PaarlBok]

Feast of Junior Rugby coming this way:
INTERNATIONAL UNDER-18 SERIES FIXTURES:
August 9:
WP Under-18 Invitational XV v Montpellier RC - City Park Stadium, Cape Town (10h30)
Italy v WP Craven Week XV – City Park Stadium, Cape Town (12h30)
France v Wales – City Park Stadium, Cape Town (14h00)
SA Schools v England – City Park Stadium, Cape Town (15h30)
August 13:
Italy v SWD Craven Week XV – Outeniqua Park, George (14h00)
England v Wales – Outeniqua Park, George (16h00)
SA Schools v France – Outeniqua Park, George (18h00)
August 17:
Italy v Boland Craven Week XV – Boland Stadium, Wellington (12h30)
England v France – Boland Stadium, Wellington (14h00)
SA Schools v Wales – Boland Stadium, Wellington (15h30)

 

[PaarlBok]

WP site

And, with Friday firmly on everyone’s minds, SA under-20 coach Dawie Theron and Stormers defence coach Jacques Nienaber offered valuable insights as the SA Schools team took to the training field in preparation for the upcoming International Under-18 Series, which will feature England, France and Wales.
The SA U18 squad gathered in Cape Town on Sunday and had two high-intensity field trainings sessions on Monday under the guidance of coaches Chris October and Roean Bezuidenhoudt to kick-off their preparations.
The intensity of their training sessions lifted a notch on Tuesday despite the glum weather in Cape Town, as they look to emulate the team’s success last season, in which they won all three of their matches against the same teams.
The SA Schools team will face England at the City Park stadium in Cape Town on Friday in their opening match. This will be followed by clashes against France in George and Wales in Wellington next Tuesday and Saturday, respectively.
October was delighted with the quality and intensity of the team’s first few training sessions and said he looked forward to their opening clash.
“I am pleased with our early preparations,” said October.
“The foundation has been laid for the tournament, so now we have to build on this as the week progresses. It is pleasing to see the players’ commitment and it is fantastic to have SA Under-20 coach Dawie Theron with us as he provides good guidance.
“It is also fantastic to have Jacques Nienaber assisting. His reputation and track-record speaks volumes, and to have one of the best defence coaches in the world working with these players is a treat.
“SARU has really taken us by the hand this year with the professionals they have brought in to assist, and I’d like to thank them for that. I am looking forward to the series.”
Having had sufficient time to work with his squad, October was pleased with the attitude among the players and had high hopes for them. “Our motto is ‘boots on, switch on’, so the players know they have to work as hard as they can when they train because we expect the same attitude during the matches.
“The squad is focused on the task at hand and all of the players are hungry to learn, which is fantastic because this is a golden opportunity for them. One of our main objectives is to create an environment in which they will feel free to showcase their talent and make their presence felt, and I believe we will achieve that.”
Unfortunately, injuries have ruled out the DHL Western Province pairing of hooker Daniel du Plessis (ankle) and lock JD Schickerling (arm), which has resulted in call-ups for RG Snyman from the Blue Bulls and the Valke’s Marco Janse van Vuren. There were also two new niggles on Monday with Boland centre Leolin Zass and Eastern Province fullback Malcolm Jaer picking up groin strains. A final call on their fitness will be made later in the week.
* Of course, with as many as five WP Craven Week players in the SA U18 squad – not to mention the unavailability of Du Plessis and Schickerling – the winning WP Craven Week side from Polokwane will be without a third of its star players for their match against Italy.
On of those WP players missing will be Craven Week skipper, Rikus Bothma, who will be skippering the SA U18 team against England.
** Meanwhile, England and Wales arrived in Cape Town on Tuesday morning, while France touched down in SA this past weekend. The Italian Under-18 team also arrived in SA over the weekend and will participate in a series of matches against the Western Province, Boland and SWD Coca-Cola Craven Week teams.

 

[PaarlBok]

SA Schools squad to face England:

15. EW Viljoen - Grey College, 14. Grant Hermanus - Paarl Gym, 13. Warrik Gelant - Outeniqua, 12. Daniel du Plessis - Paul Roos Gymnasium, 11. Duhan van der Merwe – Outeniqua, 10. Brandon Thomson - Ermelo HS, 9. Justin Philips – Waterkloof HS, 8. Rikus Bothma (captain) – Paarl Gym, 7. Jacques Vermeulen – Paarl Gym, 6. PJ Toerien – Garsfontein HS, 5. RG Snyman - Affies, 4. Daniel du Preez – Kearsney College, 3. Ruan Kramer – Grey College, 2. Joseph Dweba – Florida HS, 1. Ox Nche – Louis Botha THS

Substitutes: 16. Thomas du Toit – Paarl Boys High, 17. Francois Steyn - Affies, 18. Conrad van Vuren – Nelspruit HS, 19. Abongile Nonkontwana - St Albans College, 20. Jean-Luc du Preez – Kearsney College, 21. Marco van Vuuren – Transvalia HS, 22. Dewald Human – Outeniqua HS, 23. Jurie Linde – Affies

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Is this why the SA Schools pulled out or the possible tour to Australia later this year to coincide with the Fijian and NZ Schools touring Australia?

What sort of crowds are you expecting to these games?

Would they be televised or streamed?

Given that the Aust Schoolboys will be touring UK and Ireland later this year, I am sure that the Coaching Staff (and parents/players) would be interested to view any footage of the UK teams.

 

[PaarlBok]

Tries from the SA vs England match

 

[PaarlBok]

Is this why the SA Schools pulled out or the possible tour to Australia later this year to coincide with the Fijian and NZ Schools touring Australia?

I am not sure the reason why we withdraw, just know most of the players are in their matrix year and will go into final exams during Oct-Nov. We had three teams playing (13 players from Paarl Gym in the teams)
WP Craven Week XV beating Italy
http://www.rugby365.com/article/55639-wp-xv-too-good-for-italy

SA vs England
http://www.rugby365.com/article/55622-sa-schools-defeat-england

WP beating Montpellier

 

[PaarlBok]

SA team vs France this afternoon
http://www.rugby365.com/article/55662-wholesale-changes-to-sa-schools

The SA Schools team will line up against France at 18.00, and in the earlier matches England take on Wales at 16.00 and Italy meet the South Western Districts Craven Week team at 14.00.

SA Schools : 15 EW Viljoen (Grey College), 14 Leolin Zass (Hermanus), 13 Jurie Linde (Affies), 12 Warrick Gelant (Outeniqua (vice-captain), 11 Duhan van der Merwe (Outeniqua), 10 Dewald Human (Outeniqua), 9 Remu Malan (Outeniqua), 8 Rikus Bothma (Paarl Gim) (captain), 7 Jean-Luc du Preez (Kearsney), 6 Remuoe Rampeta (Louis Botha), 5 RG Snyman (Affies), 4.Abongile Nonkontwana (St Alban's), 3 Conraad van Vuuren (Nelspruit), 2 Francois Steyn (Affies), 1 Thomas du Toit (Paarl Boys' High)
Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba (Florida), 17 Thabana Ntsi (Selborne), 18 Ruan Kramer (Grey College), 19 Daniel du Preez (Kearsney), 20 Jacques Vermeulen (Paarl Gim), 21 Justin Phillips (Waterkloof), 22 Brandon Thomson (Ermelo), 2. Malcolm Jaer (Brandwag)

 

[Rassie]

Craven week was a joke this year. Squads were selected on racial lines.

 

[PaarlBok]

Craven week was a joke this year. Squads were selected on racial lines.

Its always been picked this way, all provincial sport in SA is picked this way. BUT our schoolboy rugby still is very strong.

 

[Rassie]

Paarl this year the quotas was increased. Where are the Bulls going to find 9 players of color in their region?

 

[Mank]

Paarl this year the quotas was increased. Where are the Bulls going to find 9 players of color in their region?

Well quotas are morally dubious, I'm not going to argue that. But you're telling me development programs can't be put in place from a young age to produce 9 decent black "players of colour" school players in a region of that size?

SARU need to get a brain between the lot of them, and read up on the 10000 hours of practice dictum.

Also, you keep saying you prefer to steer clear of political talk, but bring up this stuff in virtually every thread.

 

[Rassie]

^Mank if you class every non white person as black you are ignoring the culture and the heritage of over 22 tribes. The UN did that and 4 million people died in Burundi. So please if we talk about color I am referring to almost 22 groups all with different cultures and heritage.

Let me make it easy for you. Just answer me this. What do have the Ndugane brothers, Nokwe, Kolisi, Lwazi Mvovo, Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki got in common?

 

[Mank]

Eh? You've completely ignored the meaning of my post and picked on a semantic naming issue. Why would you do that?

Edit: I corrected my original post. See, a single word changed, hopefully that clears it all up for you.

 

[Sidbarret]

^Mank if you class every non white person as black you are ignoring the culture and the heritage of over 22 tribes. The UN did that and 4 million people died in Burundi. So please if we talk about color I am referring to almost 22 groups all with different cultures and heritage.

Let me make it easy for you. Just answer me this. What do have the Ndugane brothers, Nokwe, Kolisi, Lwazi Mvovo, Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki got in common?

By your reasoning not a lot with Lionel Mapoe, Trevor Nyakane, Raymond Rhule, Chilliboy Rhalepele, Albert Lethuli or Jacob Zuma?

 

[Rassie]

Sid I see what your thinking but let me help you out

Mapoe is Cape Coloured
Trevor Nyakane - Tsonga
Raymond Rhule - Ghanaian
Chilliboy Rhalepele - Northern Sotho
Albert Lethuli - Xhosa
Jacob Zuma - Zulu

Those of whom I mentioned are all Xhosa's. The majority of black africans are Xhosa players. There is a truth and myth value into the black people like football more saying. This is correct as Tswana and North Sotho have Portuguese, Niger-Congo influence in their culture. That is why you will find them close to SA borders as well. The Portuguese influence is why they grew up as football as their first choice sport. Also in the regions where they live you do not need grass to play football. Also the reason why SA biggest and most dominant football clubs are situated in Gauteng. Zulu's as well mostly enjoy football more and kids will grow up in a home where the dad watches football and play football with the kids.

The Xhosa's were influenced by the British after the Great cattle slaughter and were influenced where the British introduced the sports to them and that is why you will find most of the black africans are Xhosa's. That is also why the Kings have gotten a franchise. Because most of the Xhosa population live in the Eastern Cape.

And btw Gauteng have twice the number of black africans of the Eastern cape and yet the Kings were made to develop black talent and they wanted to take away the Lions.

So you see the CUlture and backgorund play a huge role and that is why the Eastern Cape were supported more than the Lions who is off course Gauteng.

Also in the Bulls region in all the age groups combined there is 9000 rugby players more or less. Most of them are white as there is a number of factors that influence that. Firstly you have to pay school fees at the good schools which is a huge amount of money and can not be afforded by most.

The schools have a thing where old boys pays those talented players school fees and sort of sponsor their education and rugby development. For interest sake Chilliboy was sponsored by John Smit the ex SA captain. John Smit is originally from the North Blue Bulls country.

The Cape Coloreds speak Afrikaans and have influences from the British and Afrikaner as well as many other tribes and that is why you will find that most of them have same sport interest as the white people like the English and Afrikaners. I myself is a colored.

So do you understand why its not really good to force regions who have a small group of black Africans playing rugby to adhere to the same number of quotas as to a region like WP where the non white rugby playing community is 10 fold bigger.

So the problem is not because of the quotas but the amount of players is the same for every region and team. Which in the end mean like what the one coastal regions schools did go and get some 22 year olds in the Eastern cape, give them a bursary and pretend their are u/19 rugby players. They made Craven week, SA Schools and were caught out when they couldn't produce their ID's. They never pitched up at schools and vanished till this day.

And then is there the story of the 25 year old student who pretended he is a 13 year old and went and win the u/13 Football WC with the SA u/13 team. Also from the Eastern Cape.

 

[PaarlBok]

Now qoutas get phased in senior provincial rugby.
http://www.dieburger.com/nuus/2013-08-14-nuwe-ras-kwotas-vir-sa-rugby

Vodacom Cup ruling

Die voorstel:
7: Daar moet minstens 7 gekleurde spelers in ’n span se groep van 22 wees.
5: Soveel gekleurde spelers moet in die beginspan wees.
2: Minstens twee van die sewe moet voorspelers wees.

What will the Pampas do now?

 

[RoffsChoice]

Surely the counter argument to this is "How do I know I'm being selected because I'm right for the spot, not because I am 'a man of colour'?"

 

[PaarlBok]

Surely the counter argument to this is "How do I know I'm being selected because I'm right for the spot, not because I am 'a man of colour'?"

Thats what make this system a disaster. No winner in this and the politicians are way to stupid to understand this. They think its like BEE in business and keep on driving their sauce trains while they have no idea what this do to the actual players. The Player of Colour thinks he make the team because of the colour of his skin and not because he is good enough while the white players who narrowly missed out on selecting thinks the PoC is there for the same reason. You'll find that PoC like Breyton Paulsen hating this system. Only one PoC have step up in the past (Charl Langeveldt in cricket) and withdraw from the Cricket Bokke for this reason. Its now 2013, kids young then 21 have no idea what this is about. Try to explain this to your kid (pay for the sins of your farther) is a vokken tough job, trust me.

Anyway yesterday match reports
SA Rugby

The SA Schools team on Tuesday held their nerve in tight tussle against France at a cold and wet Outeniqua Park in George to secure a 17-13 victory and back-to-back wins in the International Under-18 Series.
But while the players will be pleased with the victory, hard work lies ahead in the lineouts and scrums to complete the series unbeaten, as those areas cost them dearly.
The team started off with a bang as left wing Duhan van der Merwe scored a stunning try in the first minute after finding space on the outside from a skip pass, to hand the hosts an encouraging 7-0 lead.
This served as an early wake-up call for France, who did well to apply pressure on the SA forwards. But the home team’s defence held, resulting in a few tight exchanges.
France, however, capitalised on the pressure they applied, despite battling to breach the team’s defensive line, with flyhalf Lucas Meret slotting over a drop-goal in the 12th minute to open up the scoring for his team.
The home team again showed how dangerous they could be with lock RG Snyman gathering a pass at pace after breaking through the defence, but the pass by Abongile Nonkontwana was forward, which denied them an invaluable opportunity to extend their lead.
France, however, struck back by stringing together phases and working their way back into SA’s 22, and again walked away with points from a penalty by Francois Fontaine to close the gap to 7-6.
With both teams giving everything SA defended like demons to shut France out and withstood the pressure in the set pieces.
They balanced this with innovation on attack, but errors at crucial times in the lineouts and handling errors due to the wet ball, cost them a few point-scoring chances. Unfortunately for the team Dewald Human missed penalty which could have put them ahead on the scoreboard.
They were denied another opportunity to cross the tryline in the dying minutes of the first half after right wing Leolin Zass was tackled into touch two metres out.
It seemed the nerves had settled in the SA camp in the second half as the team dominated possession and field position, which put them on the front foot.
SA were awarded a penalty early in the half, but opted to kick for touch and take the lineout rather than kicking for posts. But their lineout woes continued, resulting in a turnover for France.
With the teams closely matched in terms of forward power and skill on attack, they both opted to kick for field position in the second half to increase their chances of scoring.
SA’s determination and ability to stick to the game plan, however, earned them the rewards in the third quarter as a clever grubber kick by Zass and numbers at the ruck earned them a breakdown penalty for France holding on, which Human slotted over to extend their lead to 10-6 with 19 minutes to go.
This lead was stretched to nine points in the 20th minute as the team made the most of a penalty by kicking for touch and stretching France out wide to pave the way for Van der Merwe’s second try.
France, however, refused to give up and forced their way into SA’s red zone after stringing together phases on attack. Fontaine gathered the ball and broke through two defenders to score their first try, which he converted, to close the gap to 17-13 with four minutes to go.
But SA withstood the pressure despite France being awarded a penalty on the stroke of fulltime to seal the narrow victory.
In the earlier matches, a last-minute try by England earned them a hard-fought 17-15 victory against Wales, while Italy defeated the SWD Eagles Under-18 team 55-3.
Scorers:
SA Schools 17 (7) – Tries: Duhan van der Merwe (2). Conversions: Dewald Human (2). Penalty: Dewald Human.
France 13 (6) – Try: Francois Fontaine. Conversion: Francois Fontaine. Drop Goal: Lucas Meret. Penalty: Francois Fontaine.

 

[PaarlBok]

SA Rugby

SA Schools coach Chris October has reshuffled his team for their final International Under-18 Series clash against Wales at Drostdy Tegniese Hoërskool in Worcester on Saturday as they look to complete the series unbeaten.
The coach made 10 personnel changes to the starting team that edged out France in George on Tuesday for a 17-13 victory, with several players who starred in their opening clash against England returning to the run-on team.
This included talented flyhalf Brandon Thomson and the powerful front row of Ox Nche, Ruan Kramer and Joseph Dweba. The Du Preez brothers, Daniel and Jean-Luc will also feature in the starting team at flank and lock respectively.
Scrumhalf Marco van Vuren, meanwhile, earns his first start in the series as Justin Phillips and Remu Malan started the previous matches.
The other 13 players in the squad have all been named on the bench, with the coach opting to wait until the game plays out to decide who to call on to make an impact.
Commenting on the changes to the team October said: “This is the best team we could put on the field against the physical and structured Welsh outfit. They offer something different to France and England, so it was a case of horses for courses. But just as the starting team has a role to play, so do the replacements; we are expecting them to make a big impact when they take to the field.”
With the commanding Welsh pack serving as one of their main attacking weapons, the SA Schools forwards, in particular, will have their work cut out if they plan to keep alive hopes of emulating their predecessors’ success with clean-sweep of victories.
The desire to complete the series on a high note aside, the Welsh will still be hurting from their last-minute 17-15 defeat against England on Tuesday, which will fuel their determination to stamp their authority.
Zoning in on the match October admitted that his team had to produce a much more effective performance in the lineouts and scrums especially, following their disappointing showing in those departments against France.
“We have worked hard to rectify our set pieces after last week’s performance and we have faith that the players will stand their ground up front,” said October. “With the Welsh pack being one of their main threats the players realise that they have to match the visitors physically, but we would also like to produce a better performance on attack and defence. This team has immense potential and hopefully they will be able to showcase that and finish the series on a high.”
The SA Schools clash will begin at 15h30, and in the earlier matches Italy meet the Boland Craven Week team at 12h30 and England take on France at 14h00.
SA Schools team vs Wales:
15. Grant Hermanus - Paarl Gymnasium
14. Leolin Zass - Hermanus HS
13. Warrick Gelant - Outeniqua HS
12. Daniel du Plessis - Paul Roos Gymnasium
11. Duhan van der Merwe - Outeniqua HS
10. Brandon Thomson - Ermelo HS
9. Marco van Vuren - Transvalia
8. Rikus Bothma - Paarl Gymnasium (capt)
7. Daniel Du Preez - Kearsney College
6. Jacques Vermeulen - Paarl Gymnasium
5. RG Snyman - Afrikaans Hoër Seuns (Affies)
4. Jean Luc Du Preez - Kearsney College
3. Ruan Kramer - Grey College
2. Joseph Dweba - Florida HS
1. Ox Nche - Louis Botha THS
Replacements:

EW Viljoen - Grey College
Jurie Linde - Afrikaans Hoër Seuns (Affies)
Dewald Human - Outeniqua HS
Remu Malan – Outeniqua HS
Remuoe Rampeta – Louis Botha HTS
Abongile Nonkontwana – St Albans
Conraad van Vuuren – Nelspruit HS
Francois Steyn - Afrikaans Hoër Seuns (Affies)
Thomas du Toit – Paarl Boys High
Thabana Ntsi – Selborne College
Justin Phillips - Waterkloof HS
Malcolm Jaer – Brandwag HS
PJ Toerien – Garsfontein HS

 

[PaarlBok]

SA Schools undefeated
SARugby

The SA Schools team on Saturday showed nerves of steel to hold onto a narrow 14-13 lead against Wales in their final clash in the International Under-18 Series at Drostdy Tegniese Hoërskool in Worcester to complete the series unbeaten.
Strong winds complicated matters for both teams from the outset and forced them to eliminate kicking from their game. This in turn resulted in most of the rugby being played in the middle of the field in the first half, with the teams sticking to a tight game with close passing.
Fortunately for the hosts all the hard work this week to improve their set pieces worked as they withstood the pressure exerted by the powerful Welsh pack, while their defence again proved to be the highlight of their performance.
Welsh flyhalf Luke Price opened the scoring for the visitors 14 minutes into the match thanks to a scrum penalty following a few tight exchanges.
This narrow 3-0 lead gave them a mental edge as they showed more innovation on attack and stretched the home team’s defence. SA, however, built on the tenacious defensive effort from their clash against France and as they shut out Wales twice.
The tables turned on attack soon after as SA hit back with Jean-Luc Du Preez scoring a fantastic team try, which flyhalf Brandon Thomson converted for a 7-3 lead. The forwards were instrumental in the try as they applied pressure up-front and spread the ball wide to Du Preez, who was open on the wing.
But their lead was short-lived as Wales right wing Ashton Hewitt out-sprinted two defenders to dot down the ball over the tryline from a perfect grubber kick which forced them back into a one-point lead.
The home team continued to stamp their authority as the half neared a close as they camped in Wales’ 22 with the forwards building phases in an attempt to bash their way over the advantage line. The pressure eventually got to Wales, who committed numbers to breakdown but neglected the wing, which paved the way for Leolin Zass to cross the tryline. Thomson converted, which earned SA an encouraging 14-8 lead at the break.
SA’s forwards continued to lay a solid platform up-front, which allowed them to spend a fair amount of time in Wales’ half.
Wales, however, earned the rewards for using their forwards to edge their way over the advantage line, with Hewitt scoring his second try of the day after finding space on the right side of the field following a strong showing by the pack. But they again failed to convert, leaving the team one point behind on 14-13 with the clock ticking.
Wales managed to win a turnover in SA’s 22 in the dying seconds and tried hard to breach the defence to snatch a last-minute victory. But their efforts proved fruitless as SA held them out for the victory.
In the earlier matches England defeated France 12-8 and the Italian Under-18 team registered a convincing 36-12 victory against the Boland XV.
Scorers:
SA Schools (14) – Tries: Jean-Luc du Preez, Leolin Zass. Conversion: Brandon Thomson (2).
Wales (8) – Tries: Ashton Hewitt (2). Penalties: Luke Price.