2012S15 Overall Log: Road to the play offs

[Slim 293]

Carter looked a little sore after kicking that goal though...

 

[PaarlBok]

Watching the Highlanders vs Crusaders at the moment. From the perspective of a Reds fan, it is good to see the Highlanders getting pummeled. However, god help any team that has to play the Crusaders in the finals if they keep up this type of form.

With a month break from Super rugby coming up though, teams that are really starting to fire (Shorks, Reds and Crusaders spring to mind) risk losing their momentum when super rugby resumes. Gee I love this comp! You really never know what you are going to get.

I have been watching the SA schedule. A week after S15 our non Boks go into CC rugby. No player will survive a full SA rugby season. You may love this comp , I still hate this format.

 

[ACR]

I have been watching the SA schedule. A week after S15 our non Boks go into CC rugby. No player will survive a full SA rugby season. You may love this comp , I still hate this format.

This is the difference between SANZ and A. We don't really need these extra "derbies" because we have them in our national competitions. The extended super rugby makes for a very long season. If they stick with the conference set up (which they will) at least make it a straight shooting table. Why should the 3rd placed "conference winner" get a leg up with a home qualifying final? (assuming a higher points total below).

 

[Slim 293]

This is the difference between SANZ and A. We don't really need these extra "derbies" because we have them in our national competitions. The extended super rugby makes for a very long season. If they stick with the conference set up (which they will) at least make it a straight shooting table. Why should the 3rd placed "conference winner" get a leg up with a home qualifying final? (assuming a higher points total below).

Eh, because it's a conference system and the conference winner has to be rewarded?

 

[PaarlBok]

We are off to a month break and the final stage when we resume
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Combined Log
Pos Team P W D L PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Chiefs 13 11 0 2 371 281 90 40 22 6 58
2 DHL Stormers 13 11 0 2 284 210 74 22 16 2 54
3 Brumbies 13 8 0 5 341 269 72 35 23 9 49
4 Crusaders 13 9 0 4 397 275 122 39 27 7 51
5 Vodacom Bulls 13 8 0 5 385 293 92 39 28 9 49
6 Hurricanes 14 8 0 6 438 382 56 53 35 9 45
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7 Sharks 14 8 0 6 370 323 47 39 30 9 45
8 Highlanders 14 9 0 5 325 339 -14 32 28 4 44
9 Reds 13 8 0 5 276 301 -25 28 30 4 44
10 Toyota Cheetahs 13 5 0 8 346 371 -25 31 36 8 36
11 Waratahs 14 4 0 10 315 356 -41 29 37 10 30
12 Rebels 13 4 0 9 292 425 -133 28 49 5 29
13 Force 13 3 0 10 256 342 -86 24 37 7 27
14 MTN Lions 13 2 0 11 243 364 -121 22 41 4 20
15 Blues 14 2 0 12 297 405 -108 27 49 7 19


Road to the finals:
Chiefs:
June
29 Highlanders vs Chiefs Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
July
06 Chiefs vs Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Stormers:
June
30 Stormers vs Lions DHL Newlands Stadium, Cape Town
July
07 Cheetahs vs Stormers Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein
14 Stormers vs Rebels DHL Newlands Stadium, Cape Town

Brumbies:
June
30 Force vs Brumbies NIB Stadium, Perth
July
07 Waratahs vs Brumbies ANZ Stadium, Sydney
14 Brumbies vs Blues Canberra Stadium, Canberra

Bulls
June
30 Bulls vs Cheetahs Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria
July
06 Sharks vs Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban
14 Bulls vs Lions Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

Crusaders
June
30 Crusaders vs Hurricanes AMI Stadium, Christchurch
July
06 Chiefs vs Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
14 Crusaders vs Force AMI Stadium, Christchurch

Sharks:
July
06 Sharks vs Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban
14 Sharks vs Cheetahs Mr Price Kings Park, Durban

Highlanders
June
29 Highlanders vs Chiefs Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
July
06 Reds vs Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Reds:
June
29 Rebels vs Reds AAMI Park, Melbourne
July
06 Reds vs Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
14 Reds vs Waratahs Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Hurricanes:
June
30 Crusaders vs Hurricanes AMI Stadium, Christchurch
July
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Look like the conferense winners is nearly settled.

Chiefs have probably the most difficult matches left in the NZ one. They can afford one loss and have a good 7 point lead on the Saders. The Stormers double point win on the weekend opened a 5 point lead over the Bulls, the Sharks loss left them 9 points adrift. Both these teams have to play another and the Sharks cant afford a loss. Brumbies have 4 points on the Reds and cant afford to drop one now.


Top 8 matches that will knock teams out

June 2012
29 Highlanders v Chiefs Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin 09:35
30 Crusaders v Hurricanes AMI Stadium, Christchurch 09:35

July 2012
6 Chiefs v Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton 09:35
6 Reds v Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 11:40
6 Sharks v Vodacom Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban 19:10
13 Hurricanes v Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington 09:35

Its going to be a hell of a chase for that top 6 places.

 

[Tangawizi]

Results could easily still conspire to leave the Reds stuck in 7th even if they win their last 3 matches.

I think they'll need to play great rugby and land bonus point wins at least twice to make sure of 6th.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

I reckon the Reds are a big chance to make the six if they win their last three. The Canes have a tough draw and Highlanders too (they and the Reds will knock the other out, as Paarl pointed out). The Sharks have a massive game against the Bulls coming up, which will probably decide their season.

 

[PaarlBok]

The Sharks and Bulls have a lot of Bok players. That may hurt them at the final stage. Dunno about the Reds but I would think they have a good chance to make the top 6.

 

[PaarlBok]

Combined Log

Pos Team P W D L PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Chiefs 14 12 0 2 398 302 96 42 24 6 62
2 DHL Stormers 14 12 0 2 311 227 84 25 18 2 58
3 Brumbies 14 9 0 5 369 286 83 39 26 10 54
4 Vodacom Bulls 14 9 0 5 425 317 108 45 32 10 54
5 Crusaders 14 9 0 5 419 298 121 40 29 8 52
6 Hurricanes 15 9 0 6 461 404 57 55 36 9 49
7 Reds 14 9 0 5 308 318 -10 32 32 5 49
8 Sharks 14 8 0 6 370 323 47 39 30 9 49
9 Highlanders 15 9 0 6 346 366 -20 34 30 5 45
10 Toyota Cheetahs 14 5 0 9 370 411 -41 35 42 9 37
11 Waratahs 14 4 0 10 315 356 -41 29 37 10 34
12 Rebels 14 4 0 10 309 457 -148 30 53 5 29
13 Force 14 3 0 11 273 370 -97 27 41 7 27
14 Blues 14 2 0 12 297 405 -108 27 49 7 23
15 MTN Lions 14 2 0 12 260 391 -131 24 44 4 20

Road to the finals:
Chiefs:

July
06 Chiefs vs Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Stormers:
July
07 Cheetahs vs Stormers Free State Stadium, Bloemfontein
14 Stormers vs Rebels DHL Newlands Stadium, Cape Town

Brumbies:

July
07 Waratahs vs Brumbies ANZ Stadium, Sydney
14 Brumbies vs Blues Canberra Stadium, Canberra

Bulls

July
06 Sharks vs Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban
14 Bulls vs Lions Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

Crusaders

July
06 Chiefs vs Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
14 Crusaders vs Force AMI Stadium, Christchurch

Sharks:
July
06 Sharks vs Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban
14 Sharks vs Cheetahs Mr Price Kings Park, Durban

Highlanders

July
06 Reds vs Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Reds:
July
06 Reds vs Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
14 Reds vs Waratahs Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Hurricanes:
July
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington


Top 8 matches that will knock teams out


July 2012
6 Chiefs v Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton 09:35
6 Reds v Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane 11:40
6 Sharks v Vodacom Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban 19:10
13 Hurricanes v Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington 09:35

Its going to be a hell of a chase for that top 6 places.

 

[The Red Baron]

There is a distinct possibility that the Crusaders could miss the finals if they lose to the Chiefs. For that to happen though, the Reds would need to win both of their remaining matches, and the Hurricanes would have to dust the Chiefs in the final round.

You are right there Paarl. It is going to be a hell of a ride. Time to stock up on the grog and strap myself in!

 

[PaarlBok]

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Combined Log

Pos Team P W D L PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Chiefs 15 12 0 3 419 330 89 44 27 7 63
2 DHL Stormers 15 13 0 2 324 233 91 26 18 2 62
3 Brumbies 15 10 0 5 388 301 87 40 28 10 58
4 Crusaders 15 10 0 5 447 319 128 43 31 8 56
5 Vodacom Bulls 15 9 0 6 435 349 86 46 36 10 54
6 Sharks 15 9 0 6 402 333 69 43 31 10 54
7 Reds 15 10 0 5 327 331 -4 33 34 5 53
8 Hurricanes 15 9 0 6 461 404 57 55 36 9 53
9 Highlanders 16 9 0 7 359 385 -26 36 31 6 46
10 Toyota Cheetahs 15 5 0 10 376 424 -48 35 43 10 38
11 Waratahs 15 4 0 11 330 375 -45 31 38 11 35
12 Rebels 15 4 0 11 341 494 -153 34 57 7 31
13 Blues 15 3 0 12 329 414 -85 31 49 8 28
14 Force 15 3 0 12 282 402 -120 27 45 7 27
15 MTN Lions 15 3 0 12 297 423 -126 28 48 5 25

Road to the finals:
Chiefs: (needs to win with bonus point to secure top spot)

July
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Stormers: (needs 1 log point to secure second spot and home semi bonus will be top spot if the Chiefs falter in an all important away match against the Canes)
July
14 Stormers vs Rebels DHL Newlands Stadium, Cape Town

Brumbies:

July
14 Brumbies vs Blues Canberra Stadium, Canberra (needs a draw or two log points to secure Aus conferense and third spot)

Bulls (5 point win to secure current position at least)

July
14 Bulls vs Lions Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria

Crusaders (5 point win to secure current position at least)

July
06 Chiefs vs Crusaders Waikato Stadium, Hamilton
14 Crusaders vs Force AMI Stadium, Christchurch

Sharks (5 point win to secure current position at least)
July
06 Sharks vs Bulls Mr Price Kings Park, Durban
14 Sharks vs Cheetahs Mr Price Kings Park, Durban

Reds: (need favours from others)
July
06 Reds vs Highlanders Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane
14 Reds vs Waratahs Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Hurricanes: (need favours from others)
July
13 Hurricanes vs Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington


Top 8 matches that will knock teams out
13 Hurricanes v Chiefs Westpac Stadium, Wellington 09:35

Myself cant see the top 6 change in the last week and predict

Brumbies vs Sharks and Crusaders vs Brutes next weekend. The Brumbies will probably lose against the Sharks at home and a Chiefs vs Sharks and Stormers vs Saders semi final.

 

[Ulrich]

And as things stand all Australian teams but the Brumbies have a negative points difference. In total the Australian conference has notched up 31 wins compared to NZ's 43 and SA's 39. Really would be tragic if the Reds made the finals as they don't deserve to be there.

 

[Happy]

Actually the Brumbies only need 1 log point to secure 3rd spot and top the Australian Conference. That is, if the Reds win with a bonus point against the Waratahs to make them equal on 58.

 

[TOCC]

And as things stand all Australian teams but the Brumbies have a negative points difference. In total the Australian conference has notched up 31 wins compared to NZ's 43 and SA's 39. Really would be tragic if the Reds made the finals as they don't deserve to be there.

haha same could be said about the Stormers winning the GF

 

[PaarlBok]

Chiefs (63)Hurricanes (a)
BEST FINISH: 1st
WORST FINISH: 2nd


Stormers (62)
Rebels (h)
BEST FINISH: 1st
WORST FINISH: 3rd


Brumbies (58)
Blues (h)
BEST FINISH: 2nd
WORST FINISH: 7th


Crusaders (56)
Force (h)
BEST FINISH: 4th
WORST FINISH: 8th


Bulls (54)
Lions (h)
BEST FINISH: 4th
WORST FINISH: 8th


Sharks (54)
Cheetahs (h)
BEST FINISH: 4th
WORST FINISH: 8th


Reds (53)
Waratahs (h)
BEST FINISH: 3rd
WORST FINISH: 8th


Hurricanes (53)
Bye, Chiefs (h)
BEST FINISH: 4th
WORST FINISH: 8th

 

[PaarlBok]

Hurricanes did themself and the Stormers one hellofa favour by beating the Chiefs at the death.

Log now:
Combined Log

Pos Team P W D L PF PA PD TF TA BPts Pts
1 Chiefs 16 12 0 4 444 358 86 47 30 8 64
2 DHL Stormers 15 13 0 2 324 233 91 26 18 2 62
3 Brumbies 15 10 0 5 388 301 87 40 28 10 58
4 Hurricanes 16 10 0 6 489 429 60 58 39 9 57
5 Crusaders 15 10 0 5 447 319 128 43 31 8 56
6 Vodacom Bulls 15 9 0 6 435 349 86 46 36 10 54
7 Sharks 15 9 0 6 402 333 69 43 31 10 54
8 Reds 15 10 0 5 327 331 -4 33 34 5 53
9 Highlanders 16 9 0 7 359 385 -26 36 31 6 50
10 Toyota Cheetahs 15 5 0 10 376 424 -48 35 43 10 38
11 Waratahs 15 4 0 11 330 375 -45 31 38 11 35
12 Rebels 15 4 0 11 341 494 -153 34 57 7 31
13 Blues 15 3 0 12 329 414 -85 31 49 8 28
14 Force 15 3 0 12 282 402 -120 27 45 7 27
15 MTN Lions 15 3 0 12 297 423 -126 28 48 5 25