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After spending some time away from footy I've become a little less militant on such issues. There's a bunch of "ifs" but in short, let them play if the club is happy for them to.... If they're paid up on rego If both clubs know about it If the clubs are not in the same division If there's no...

The commitment that's been made 2 Mens grades, 1 Womens and a Colts. Hopefully they can fulfil that. Although I don't know if a Women's team is a requirement of JID. Looks like there's unanimous support for Penrith to join, so there may be numbers and/or dollars matching that.

Relocated cities so been a while since I last posted. I think clubs refusing to go up is a significant problem. A harsh but simple solution is they can stay but won't be allowed to contest the finals...in any grade. They can parade their "power" all year but won't get any silverware. The...

But does it have a fence?!?!?!?! Priorities Pfitzy:p

While I agree the splitting of Clubs won't have a hugely detrimental effect on Clubs and their culture, still not sure how to make it work in practice. Using the Mosman example, I'm not sure of the quality but I would suspect Mosman 5th or 6th grade could struggle against Blacktown or ROBS...

........now I've stopped laughing....do you know anyone who would pay for these competitions. Nearly all Club sponsors are either current or ex-players or part of the local community. Can you see anyone paying money for something that they have no interest or influence in. More importantly, even...

I agree that it was less about malice and more about, "this is what we can get away with". Hooper was off his feet with almost no forward momentum. Barrett made no attempt whatsoever to stay on his feet. He dived into a ruck. end of story. Professional foul near the try line and yellow card...

Hardly. Barrett went off his feet to attack the head with the shoulder. It was blatantly obvious in real time and damning in slow motion. Even if you ignore the shoulder and attacking the head, in what world was he attempting to stay on his feet entering the ruck. On every level it was a...

Just read this on the SS thread. Where does that leave the Dirty Reds?

Sad state of affairs when someone feels "resigned" to winning and promotion. As for the BOBs and Newport dilemma, could they have word to the SS Clubs. Not sure where they're at with numbers but could Warringah run their lowest team as a 4th grade for Newport. I remember a number of years ago...

Sounds incredibly logical and forward thinking. Never mind, NSW Rugby will get involved and that will be the end of such silliness:p

I have discussed this at length in the past (see somewhere in the 2017 or 2018 thread). The crux of it is the Premier competition needs to be separated from the rest of the Club. How each Club manages this is their business. It would require a complete rethink across all of Sydney Rugby to...

It's always a refereeing blunder when Manly loses........here endth the lesson:D

The structure of Shute Shield is that there are a whole lot of (dedicated) social players still needing to be catered for. It's a great day out for friends, family and the die hard stalwarts. But ask anyone who doesn't have an abiding interest and it is seen as a high quality social sport. It...

Nothing will change in this regard until Shute Shield is willing to address it's structure. You need to remember it is identical to Suburban Rugby. The difference is Subbies has no pretensions of catering to the best players. If you want to be treated as professionals then you have to look...

.....and this is where logistics meet reality. While both Clubs could field the teams in Div 1, I'm not sure whether either of them want to go up. Say what you want about their respective Club cultures but both Forest and Lindfield enjoy their footy and like the comfort of Div 2.

A big part of the problem is outside Subbies control......and that's the Shute Shield. Why on earth people want to claim "elite" club status and then go down to 5th grade in seniors and 3rd grade in colts. If they started acting like professional outfits there might not have been any need for...

You're looking at a situation that will never apply to rugby. The "geo-lock" is there to purposely limit the size of the competition. It simply cannot get bigger without making things worse. Rugby has to take whoever will turn up. Nath is right in that rugby cannot afford to tell people where...

Sadly, the existing Club structures are no longer viable for competitions in the lower divisions. It might be time to look at divisional team competitions. Before people panic, hear me out.....then heap shit on it:p There is also a need to be completely honest about why we are playing Subbies...

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