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OK given it's in the England match thread I had assumed the excitement was about bringing him into the squad this tour. Going forward no issue including him in the discussions. Given our current predicament at 10 include as many as possible!

There might be serious excitement about him but they haven't flown anyone over as cover yet so I doubt he'll be getting a call up. Let's see how he goes for the Reds next season.

That's pretty much the team I had in mind too, I wasn't so much suggesting giving all the uncapped guys a run, just favouring the younger capped players. Changes to that team would possibly be starting Bell over Slipper, testing Swinton out again, and perhaps seeing how Perese goes at 13...

I’d be sending out a ‘team for the future’, without ex pats, except maybe Latu because we need him on the bench.

In what respect?

That was my thought as well while I was reading RY's post and before reading yours

I think that is because he needed to be on the end of a good backline. He didn't very often have that privilege during his first stint in Super Rugby.

I quite like this but I doubt Foketi has played a minute on the wing in his pro career. He was Aus schools #10 x 2 years, and pretty much in the centres since. One of Wright or Beale will probably have to stay by default.

Id be getting rid of Wright before Beale. Beale was targeted and I don’t think dropped a high ball - the ‘numerous‘ knock ons that someone referred to before I think was one above his head and one strip, and he also gained one strip. id certainly not be persisting with Kurtley beyond this tour...

Whats the Covid protocol? Surely more than 2 have it if they’ve all been training together, and now we’re all going to have it for the Wales game?

I don’t disagree with that at all. I was very anti Tom after his first 17 lacklustre tests appearances but admit he was starting to grow into the role when he got injured. Like you I don’t think either are the answer in their respective positions, the irony was in the consecutive posts by Seb...

It's ironic that this is your view of JOC (James O'Connor).... yet this is your view of Banks. Like you, I'm happy to be proven wrong

I think the general consensus is that Banks is a placeholder. That doesn't mean he's not the best option when fit, but he's only there as long as we don't have a test quality fullback. That could well be Kellaway, or Petaia, or even someone like Harrison or Donaldson in due course.

I think Beale had to start. Kellaway is probably the future at 15, but we need to get our wingers sorted first. Twickenham v England isn’t the place for unforced experiments.

We want to avoid scrums, England will be knocking the ball on on purpose.

Clearly, as he went back on and played out the rest of the game.

I would have no issues with Perese being picked at 12 and won't be surprised if it happens.

3. Hooper 2. Rodda 1. Kellaway

I may have jumped the gun a bit, I was going off the England match thread. However - Christy Doran has tweeted that he met with Wallabies coaches, that's all I can find on it at this stage.

Oli Hoskins