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Gave you a bit of info on the SA youngsters Stormers:15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Gary van Aswegen, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Nick Koster, 7 Duane Vermeulen, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2...

Plumtree has a winge like me about the conferense system. Kiap. Boet relax now.

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Battle in Osfontein: Cheetahs:15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Rocco Jansen, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Philip Snyman, 11 Willie le Roux, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Davon Raubenheimer, 7 Philip van der Walt, 6 Heinrich Brussow, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 WP Nel, 2 Adriaan...

Cheetahs: 15 Hennie Daniller 14 Rocco Jansen 13 Robert Ebersohn 12 Philip Snyman 11 Willie le Roux 10 Johan Goosen 9 Tewis de Bruyn 8 Davon Raubenheimer 7 Philip van der Walt 6 Heinrich Brussow 5 Izak van der Westhuizen 4 Andries Ferreira 3 WP Nel 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain) 1 Trevor Nyakane...

Stormers: 15 Joe Pietersen 14 Gio Aplon 3 Juan de Jongh 12 Jean de Villiers (c) 11 Bryan Habana 10 Gary van Aswegen 9 Dewaldt Duvenage 8 Nick Koster 7 Duane Vermeulen 6 Siya Kolisi 5 Andries Bekker 4 Eben Etzebeth 3 Brok Harris 2 Tiaan Liebenberg 1 Steven Kitshoff. Reserves： 16 Scarra Ntubeni...

I try to illustarte the closeness of our matches. If you want to compare wins only well the Cheetahs beat your second best team at home.

I gave you the stats on the previous page. My Kiap Boet dont want to read them.

You only want to see what you want. Our derbies is much closer and tougher to get that away win.

SAIL = Rupert

Super Rugby Match Officials Rd.2. Match No.8: Chiefs v Blues Date Friday 2 March Venue : Hamilton Kick Off local: 19:35 Referee: Keith Brown Assistant Ref 1:Jonathon White Assistant Ref 2:Richard Kelly TMO : Nick Briant Match No.9: Rebels v Waratahs Date: Friday 2 March Venue : Melbourne...

SA will host it this year. SARugby

Obvious the reasons why Plumtree is spot on about our Conferense much tougher then the Aus conferense. Throw in the Kings 2013 entry and 2012 will be much tougher in SA. The other 4 SA franchises will have it much easier in 2013. Garantued 5 point start like Aus had with the Rebels in 2011.

Ag nee Boetie, we just have to agree to disagree. No team in SA against SA teams are meat for another at home. Thats the differense CC do to us, even to beat Griquas at the Groot Gat is not easy. They kicked the Brutes out of their semi spot last year, Sharks also got one huge hiding there in...

Kings = NMMU, beat the current Ikeys champs and did the same to Shimlas. UJ = old RAU. They have an excellent team this year. Most provinces academy players plays in the Varsity cup teams. Sharks have vokol.

Thats the thing about derbies. The coaches of all the franchises know they just have to win them (SA teams have more pressure try to survive) and their first aim is to top their conferense to get in the finals. This mean more dour matches and surely why Plumtree critizise it.

Dont agree OuBoet, its not about every year, conferense system was last year and their 10th was still better then three of your conferense five teams in 2011.

OK I see what you try to do, the weak Cheetahs beat the Tahs at home. If they played in the Aus Conferense they would be second behind the Reds. 2012 will have the same thing. Reds run away with your conferense and have easy games to top the log.

Its not just about intense, its about quantity. We do it twice as many as your lot plus we have a Vodacom competition aswell. Its just to many derbies fitted into one year. We have our CC which is fine, we had the S14 which works well , so they changed it to the stupid S15 with more derbies and...

Fifa dont play on Newlands Boet, its rugby Holy Ground. http://img.ssz.co.za/StadiumPlanNewlands12.pdf