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*sigh* The only reason they're suggesting Turner at 13 is because he HAS played there with a little success at Eastwood. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) is such a good centre that he's playing fullback!

Really? It was definetely a shoulder charge, looked quite mungo-esque. Well deserved card.

To be fair, the only reason theyre suggesting Turner at 13 is because he's playing there with a little success at Eastwood.

Elsom was quite aggravated when speaking to Joubert after the Muliaina/Kaino delays, but not Johnathon Thurston aggravated...

Thats why Giteau should be at 12. Sure they switch around, but Barnes at ten means Giteau sets up that 2 on 2, and more times than not will draw a defender. With Minimal Crab Mode engaged, he can draw a man and turn that 2 on 2 into a 2 on 1.

Injured, shoulder reco.

Yeah, that was a definete turning point in the game. Gordon Bray noted that as well, and he was quite correct that the kick was around the time that the Wallabies were well and truly blasted off the park, that 10th-30th minute mark. The kick itself was poor, but it signalled the beginning of...

Here it is, everyone. View it objectively for God's sake... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBnpliFRanI&feature=player_embedded

What was the point of that, louie. At least remove the injured players. And the foreign players and retired players.

10.1 OBSTRUCTION (n) Misconduct while the ball is out of play. A player, must not, while the ball is out of play, commit any misconduct, or obstruct or in any way interfere with an opponent. Sanction: Penalty kick 10.5 SANCTIONS (a) Any player who infringes any part of the Foul Play Law must be...

We'll never know if he's the only one taking kicks. IMO he shouldn't be kicking. Poor old Berrick, he cant seem to find the form he really needs. Fainga'a is a hard running 12, but he gives away too much size and is pretty one dimensional compared to the AB's centres. But then again, most of...

What did Barnes do wrong? I thought he was sound. Giteau played his game well, but it wasnt the type of game required on the night; I think we really missed Coopers long passing game.

I thought Joubert had a good game, to be honest. It would be pretty childish of the rugby community to constantly criticise referee's for not coming down hard enough on repeat infringements and then complain when they do. You could say that the penalised infringements, like Mitchell's two...

Dunno about that, Cyclo. What did Joubert do, other than physically show the card?

I don't dislike it for Australian concerns. When I hear the anthem I can't help but think of Kitchener opening up the guns on the masses at Khartoum. Ah well. It's just a song, after all!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM Yep, Le Marsellaise is one of the best. I really like the Welsh anthem as well. I really dont like God Save the Queen. And I dont think I'm alone on that one.

Horwill? (When fit obviously)

I though Barnes did at least as well as Giteau. He neutralised Nonu as a threat for nearly the whole match.

The ARU would have to be happy with the entertainment value they got out of the game. The attendance was around 52,000 wasn't it? You'd have to say they got their moneys worth; plenty of free flowing rugby, tries, controversy and the Wallabies were competitive for some parts of the game.

That wasn't the game I watched last night, because the one I watched featured an immensely talented opposition.