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Dont understand Jake White view. When he was Springbok coach he argued the Deans way.

Lions: 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Deon Helberg, 13 Nicolaas Hanekom, 12 Alwyn Hollenbach, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Marnitz Boshoff, 9 Michael Bondesio, 8 Willie Britz, 7 Derick Minnie, 6 Jaco Kriel, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Hendrik Roodt, 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Francois du Toit, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg...

Cheetahs vs Stormers Kick-off at the Free State Stadium is at 17:00 on Saturday, with the match to be broadcasted live on SuperSport. Teams: Cheetahs: 15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Jannie Boshoff, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Rayno Benjamin, 11 Rocco Jansen, 10 Riaan Smit, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Phillip van der...

Two live televised warmup matches Kicks off at 15:00 on Saturday 2 February 2013 at the Orlando Stadium in Soweto, and is hosted by the Bulls. The match will also be broadcast live on SuperSport. Bulls: 15. Jürgen Visser, 14. Travis Ismaiel, 13. Lionel Mapoe, 12. Jan Serfontein, 11. Sampie...

You have to take into account that the Lions franchise include the Lui Perde (Pukke) and Pumas aswell. Pumas alone can compete with the Kings at this very moment. Anyway this is only short term thinking, two more years and both franchises will be included in the SA 6 teams conferense. Will be...

The promotion/relegation match have nothing to do with S15 or Sanzar, its an internal Saru match.

Sorry Griffons is Cheetahs like Griquas, Pumas and Lui Perde is part of the Lions franchise, Valke Limpopo Brutes. Nope Gary aint a Gimmie.

Lions players in the S15 wider sqauds Name Surname Team School Sch Union Louis Fouché Bulls Rustenburg Leopards Rudy Paige Bulls Bastion Lions Willie Wepener Bulls Helpmekaar Lions Paul Willemse Bulls Monnas Lions Ulrich Beyers Bulls Ermelo Pumas Sarel Pretorius Cheetahs Reitz Griffons Dusty...

I dont have the Lions list, only the S15 wider squads. Siddie there is a differense between International and National players, no way you can expect the Lions not to have their players back, most of them are gone on a loan basis to the other S15 franchise and still under their contract.

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Maybe the Force first up.

and its obvious if they can get ther new Academies in their provinces going and hold on to their talent they sure can become a power in SA Rugby in the future. Thats the differense between a new SA franchise and Australia, the culture and schoolboy base is there, only needs to grow it to the top...

or Sharks Scott Mathie Kings DHS KZN Anton Bresler Sharks DHS KZN Kyle Cooper Sharks Glenwood KZN Francois Kleinhans Sharks Glenwood KZN Craig Burden Sharks Maritzburg Coll KZN Butch James Sharks Maritzburg Coll KZN Don Armand Stormers Maritzburg Coll KZN Peter Grant Stormers Maritzburg Coll...

Compare this to the stronger Bulls franchise Dean Greyling Bulls Affies Bulls Frik Kirsten Bulls Affies Bulls Wynand Olivier Bulls Affies Bulls Pierre Spies Bulls Affies Bulls Andries Ferreira Cheetahs Affies Bulls Shaun Venter Kings Affies Bulls Heimar Williams Sharks Affies Bulls Gerhard van...

The Kings may struggle at the top structure to be competitive but rugby in the region is pretty healthy if you take a look at their schoolboy structure and rugby culture. Here is the S15 SA wider squad list of players coming from their provinces: Kings schooled players in SA S15 wider sqauds...

Cheetahs vs Stormers warmup

SA Conferenses wider sqauds : Province Total Own Poached % Own Bulls 36 6 30 16.7 Cheetahs 44 16 28 36.4 Kings 41 17 24 41.5 Sharks 40 9 31 22.5 Stormers 41 21 20 51.2

Dont think its that far fetch. The conferense matches is the money spinners, Add more teams per conferense (SA have 8 provinces in their Premier league CC, NZ also have more then enough provinces in ITM) and we are 2 thirds from the final product of trdisional provincial rugby within the...

The ideal will be if Aus/SA/NZ can have their own provincial competitions (CC/NPC) and the winners play in a SANZAR final. We only need Australia to get their house in order.

The Lions vs Cheetahs match was on live TV. Good match the differense was that the Cheetahs used it as a warmup and the Lions to prove something. The result always will go only one way but still some excellent performances from some of the Lions newbies like Lionel Cronje and Stokkies Hanekom...